From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: LEE Sau Dan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs doesn't use the X clipboard Date: 14 Jan 2004 22:40:01 +0100 Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20040111002614.GM6119@luna.mooo.com> <87fzekv3xc.fsf@newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-7 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1074167668 5228 80.91.224.253 (15 Jan 2004 11:54:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 11:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 15 12:54:24 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Ah64u-00025u-00 for ; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:54:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Ah619-0005P7-2L for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 06:50:31 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.uchicago.edu!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!130.59.10.21.MISMATCH!irazu.switch.ch!switch.ch!news.belwue.de!news.uni-freiburg.de!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 30 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: savona.informatik.uni-freiburg.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:120119 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:16060 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:16060 >>>>> "Eli" == Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I'm not sure if ltrace can show the Xlib calls, though. Eli> I doubt that. And debugging with ltrace or similar tools is Eli> not a very efficient method, anyway, compared to stepping Eli> with GDB thru the source code. IMHO, ltrace is for the Eli> software to which you don't have the sources. I don't agree. Firstly, 'ltrace' doesn't require the program to be required. So, you can use it immediately. No downloading of the source code. No time wasted on compiling. Secondly, 'ltrace' let's you trace the behaviour of your program at a different level. That can often reveal what it has done (on that level) more clearly, because you're not flooded with excess information. (I did 'strace' some programs to check which syscalls they make, and in what sequence. That can be very helpful in identifying problems when you suspect that the sequence of calls is not in the correct order, which you once assumed. 'strace' lets me see more clearly how the program interacts with the OS.) -- Lee Sau Dan +Z05biGVm-(Big5) ~{@nJX6X~}(HZ) E-mail: danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de Home page: http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~danlee