From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Showing end of buffer Date: 20 Jan 2004 01:41:04 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87ptdfbrgu.fsf@emptyhost.emptydomain.de> <20040119214259.GA25875@fencepost> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1074555824 23757 80.91.224.253 (19 Jan 2004 23:43:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 23:43:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Kai Grossjohann , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 20 00:43:36 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Aij3Q-0000CZ-00 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 00:43:36 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Aij3Q-0003MG-00 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 00:43:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Aij1o-0006WJ-OR for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:41:56 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Aij1h-0006Vl-QC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:41:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Aij15-0006HK-8K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:41:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.41.46.236] (helo=pfepb.post.tele.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Aij14-0006Ge-B1; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:41:10 -0500 Original-Received: from kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk (0x503e2644.bynxx3.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [80.62.38.68]) by pfepb.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F0B95EE291; Tue, 20 Jan 2004 00:41:09 +0100 (CET) Original-To: Miles Bader In-Reply-To: <20040119214259.GA25875@fencepost> Original-Lines: 34 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:19304 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:19304 Miles Bader writes: > On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 09:42:25PM +0100, Kai Grossjohann wrote: > > I makes sense to put the beginning indicator on the left and the end > > indicator on the right, in a way. But somehow I expected both to be > > on the left. > > > > What do people think? > > I agree that it sort of `makes sense', but one thing I do find annoying is > that the _up_ indicator switches between left and right depending on whether > it's `beginning of file' or an up-arrow. I think it would makes sense to put > the up-arrow also on the right; The arrow is already on the right -- do you suggest moving the up arrow to the left side? > I find glancing at those indicators when > scrolling, and putting them in the same spot would make my glancing a lot > easier... :-) > > Another small issue is that I'd like the arrows to be even more distinct from > the bof/eof indicators than they are now, to make quick recognition easier; > perhaps just adding a another row of pixels to the vertical line inthe > bof/eof indicators would do th job. But I deliberately didn't want to make them too visible -- it's nice they are there, but they are a bit on the noisy side in some cases. In any case, I have plans to make the bitmaps customizable (in lisp), so eventually you will be able to make them any way you like... -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk