From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: remember(-diary).el Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:22:43 +0000 Message-ID: References: <4743DD30.4010504@gmx.at> <4743EFE7.7080907@gmx.at> <8763zki775.fsf@grepfind.mwolson.org> <87lk8fh8wu.fsf@grepfind.mwolson.org> <66bq9bmu3b.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <877ijzfko3.fsf@grepfind.mwolson.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196461506 17850 80.91.229.12 (30 Nov 2007 22:25:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:25:06 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 30 23:25:14 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IyEIH-00037l-Fj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 23:25:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IyEI1-0003jA-Hm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:24:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IyEHx-0003j5-Ve for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:24:50 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IyEHv-0003ib-P3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:24:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IyEHv-0003iM-LF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:24:47 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IyEHv-0005by-3N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:24:47 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IyEHX-0007fi-Dy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:24:23 +0000 Original-Received: from sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.223.202]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:24:23 +0000 Original-Received: from sdl.web by sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:24:23 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 33 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAElBMVEUAAAAAAP+LRRP0pGC+ vr7///+7mT1iAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMO DhglKe4AAAEsSURBVCjPbZNBboQwDEV/Cd4X9QJRThApmn0XYW+Jyf2v0m+HhqDBgiAe9rcTG7QH w/1Vn2Ar8gBb/ocywSN3qK9T3z4eFDB4eApocBpeBs1RSykoJd8gQcm8pGmHXFso3ajnmsqV0TnY DQkOfXUfN5NwaI7AWTVOyEhcu1aHmdWItHddUVUcUgUBCkitu8V6ditHVOVdqzl2EQ1ZVGTbdK0V 7cqn8vWzoU5Q/bF9Y/Y0cRU1xwkys5dJ+Dt6pBDWifcNQml8Gh2JVmPSoQzo7en0grswkxrUGYJ7 0hSxxAGr7ZMwYcHIzprpi7TENEE1xtiYxixRlCfPBsUUrwHD7uGIwATrbnODJcVrPpVn3hxiGloe m/S+z3CtuzUSMo83N4DPH+F0evwR3P4A2k+75838OKQAAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.130000 Emacs/23.0.50 (20071101) Fedora 8 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:AwULkE1KSDK+l9m6u/fD0hwlM8Q= X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84385 Archived-At: On 2007-11-30 22:11 +0000, Michael Olson wrote: > Glenn Morris writes: > >> Michael Olson wrote: >> >>> The `remember-diary-extract-entries' function needs >>> `make-diary-entry', and so remember-diary.el must do (require >>> 'diary-lib). It would be a shame to make remember.el require >>> 'diary-lib even for people who have no intention of using Diary. >> >> -(require 'diary-lib) >> +(autoload 'make-diary-entry "diary-lib") > > I suppose that wouldn't be too horrible. *sigh*. I'll do the merge > this weekend. > > I do hope that future Emacs packages will be allowed to advertise > themselves as incompatible with Windows 98 rather than submit to this > dreadful mangling of the namespace. Is this information about the > underlying filesystem available in some way to Emacs Lisp programs? If > not, I'd like for it to be. Agree. Maybe many third world people still use win 9x; but I just did a survey and +90% don't intend to use any GNU software and and among the rest, 7% do not want to upgrade their software. HTH, -- .: Leo :. [ sdl.web AT gmail.com ] .: [ GPG Key: 9283AA3F ] :. Use the best OS -- http://www.fedoraproject.org/