From: Bastien <bzg@altern.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: basic question: going back to dired
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:06:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3fxpwewg0.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7ccd24b0807240715o541c7847rf1639d31a9ced671@mail.gmail.com> (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:15:00 +0200")
"Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com> writes:
> Perhaps these are people who have limited time to spend and (their
> fault, ours, or both) do not see the benefits of switching to Emacs,
> while the difficulties are painfully evident.
Again, Emacsers have a responsability in the fact that they maintain an
image of Emacs as something that is _really_ so special that it requires
special gifts to master it -- "oh! wait! _nobody_ can master it!"
Before lowering the learning curve, maybe we should first lower our
pride in using Emacs. Then the newcomers would be less impressed and
would jump more easily.
--
Bastien
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-26 11:06 UTC|newest]
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2008-07-21 18:59 basic question: going back to dired Ben Aurel
2008-07-21 23:21 ` Bastien
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2008-07-22 6:04 ` Xah
2008-07-22 8:26 ` Bastien Guerry
2008-07-22 11:29 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-22 16:53 ` Bastien Guerry
2008-07-22 22:58 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-22 23:32 ` Bastien Guerry
2008-07-22 23:38 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-22 23:56 ` Bastien Guerry
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2008-07-24 7:46 ` Miles Bader
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2008-07-22 16:13 ` Evans Winner
2008-07-22 22:49 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-23 9:46 ` Tim X
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2008-07-24 7:39 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-24 9:04 ` Juanma Barranquero
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2008-07-24 10:38 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-24 12:36 ` Tim X
2008-07-24 14:38 ` Juanma Barranquero
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2008-07-26 4:38 ` Tim X
2008-07-26 6:18 ` William Case
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2008-07-26 8:58 ` Tim X
2008-07-22 9:46 ` Phil Carmody
2008-07-22 11:22 ` Juanma Barranquero
[not found] ` <op.ueoy5npciz1hxh@el-juanek>
2008-07-22 12:14 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-22 13:56 ` Dan Davison
2008-07-22 15:07 ` Juanma Barranquero
[not found] ` <op.ueo4z1peiz1hxh@el-juanek>
2008-07-22 15:03 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-22 17:14 ` Bastien Guerry
2008-07-24 1:38 ` Juanma
2008-07-24 8:42 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-24 9:28 ` Nikolaj Schumacher
2008-07-24 9:41 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-24 21:43 ` Juanma
2008-07-24 21:49 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-24 22:34 ` Juanma
2008-07-24 22:39 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-24 23:07 ` Juanma
2008-07-24 23:13 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-24 23:42 ` Juanma
2008-07-24 23:45 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
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2008-07-24 12:30 ` Tim X
2008-07-24 14:30 ` Juanma Barranquero
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2008-07-26 2:23 ` Tim X
2008-07-31 0:04 ` Sean Sieger
2008-07-31 9:21 ` Juanma Barranquero
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2008-07-22 15:25 ` Phil Carmody
2008-07-24 7:19 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-24 9:02 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-24 11:12 ` Nikolaj Schumacher
2008-07-24 12:32 ` Tim X
2008-07-24 14:31 ` Juanma Barranquero
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2008-07-24 15:19 ` xraysmalevich
2008-07-24 15:43 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-24 16:03 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-25 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-26 4:33 ` Tim X
2008-07-31 9:27 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-31 11:22 ` Juan Manuel Menéndez Bellón
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2008-07-31 13:59 ` Tim X
2008-07-31 14:43 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-31 14:56 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2008-07-31 15:03 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-31 15:12 ` Thierry Volpiatto
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2008-08-04 10:48 ` Sacha Chua
2008-08-04 14:30 ` Thierry Volpiatto
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2008-07-24 17:59 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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2008-07-22 12:34 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-22 12:52 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-22 13:47 ` Nikolaj Schumacher
2008-07-22 14:03 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-23 1:29 ` Kevin Rodgers
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2008-07-22 14:50 ` xraysmalevich
2008-07-22 14:44 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-22 17:06 ` Bastien Guerry
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2008-07-23 10:25 ` Tim X
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2008-07-23 11:11 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-23 11:39 ` Bastien
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2008-07-23 12:34 ` Bastien Guerry
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2008-07-23 13:34 ` Bastien Guerry
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2008-07-23 13:49 ` Bastien Guerry
2008-07-23 15:26 ` Bastien
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2008-07-24 12:18 ` Tim X
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2008-07-26 11:06 ` Bastien [this message]
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