From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: undecided vs utf-8 Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 13:50:02 +0100 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Message-ID: References: <83sjzg42d5.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1288961465 27507 80.91.229.12 (5 Nov 2010 12:51:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 12:51:05 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 05 13:51:01 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PELky-0007VP-Ri for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 13:51:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53785 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PELky-0007jU-B2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 08:51:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=49090 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PELkd-0007dV-0G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 08:50:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PELkF-0002UO-EP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 08:50:38 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:45209) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PELkF-0002UJ-1u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 08:50:15 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PELkC-0006xc-2t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 13:50:12 +0100 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no ([84.215.34.171]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 13:50:12 +0100 Original-Received: from larsi by cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 05 Nov 2010 13:50:12 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEU+fxkndwUmbweNqnkh TwgldAUmZgYpeQUYZHywAAACVElEQVQ4jV2TQVPbMBCFBQ7xtXIqfA1qrFxdxMDVUDdn7EHh6gah XqN0Mvr7fSsZJ6DxeDT7ed/uPsnMdCEElpY+rTtmuhJk/xUBGH4GJvwBoDb7xGaQ4j6S9ZB/BoZ3 CYTDmSSBLoEQDnLj3IDoMGbwMsVV27arp/2erS+lpQwCmrGsZrNG15fY1jGDRjyiw4y6rPV9nCMC 6nfAWkJ6zuZTcfMaQr5necCzt8v1Yels20Ypf9B1cuJN62RLG4uf2h9Y00ZTphpp+sCfoBLXB8AY Fq+yDNeINs3sBBZ3dfA3pd+2tm2yaAnnUNrruyx4L4xrXdvoNDmNvkJjLPCiUnbjbAQwC0poVA8/ uDC93CgbDyq5yDJ94Tn33Cin3vRskhrYVSgDgV6q1WasQROEfw+BYaBaF1K6ebSkLMqS8wWq3Gr9 EC25pwwqArFnlrF5zW4zHEdGGZ2A1rEkU8qAzF7tnHNjcX58jWH0xY2UKgIBT3igc8/RheeiGgHu D/e+DMXfjICQcqc2bhzw+xqhl18X0BI9JkwZgl/bxyzHZfjpPZcrlHbRK1QvPA3BwvGmiD0lYIT7 E/A9nYoQVS+nDOHcN53AUaDbD1Dx9jfdNhxX9HAC5sU8klE0XYH4CUBtofMacTEmuHhLyK1FzXOE qcIZMNy8PnQd7fpo1ASQlNNbTgkTMKzC58NlqmzPQI1d38bPT2C7NWapAZpUwI53t3/HK9NXVT9M 8ZSxM+/P8PAphqlyBFJCyu7w2+3O4gRUtd1uAZSzFN9MwEml5FLXo9D45/wHA7EglahWSycAAAAA SUVORK5CYII= Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Various's _Out Come the Freaks! (3)_: "Tone-Loc - Wild Thing" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:hf8YmAErfinLjIDQGd0fhBwPzl8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:132397 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > How do other erc clients solve this problem? I haven't used other clients than zenirc and erc, but I queried the channel I'm on. It seems like older clients just let you set one charset, and that's used for decoding all the strings, so it somebody uses the wrong charset (and you're on an ornery channel) everybody gets upset. ("Charset wars.") Newer clients apparently just check for utf-8-ness first, and if it looks like utf-8, it's decoded as utf-8. If not, the per-channel charset setting is used. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen