From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: James Cloos Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 01:11:56 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83fwlqe2xy.fsf@gnu.org> <20110731.005516.149395323.wl@gnu.org> <20110731.082721.451360942.wl@gnu.org> <87d3gp3zkd.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83oc09auwt.fsf@gnu.org> <87aabskh1u.fsf@gnus.org> <831ux3buyy.fsf@gnu.org> <83pqkna99r.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1312348681 10457 80.91.229.12 (3 Aug 2011 05:18:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 05:18:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?B?2YXYrdiz2YYg2KjZhtin2YY=?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 03 07:17:56 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QoTq7-0006jc-0e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 07:17:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45885 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QoTq6-00019L-2T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 01:17:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:56539) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QoTq4-00019F-6G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 01:17:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QoTq3-0004iC-Cs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 01:17:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eagle.jhcloos.com ([207.210.242.212]:50981) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QoTq1-0004hg-On; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 01:17:50 -0400 Original-Received: by eagle.jhcloos.com (Postfix, from userid 10) id 85ED340186; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 05:17:24 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jhcloos.com; s=eagle; t=1312348668; bh=QQxp1BsG7povRgW0hCYIgqz+7y8+CqwssT4oio3w9Fw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HoFNGQPfAKsfcYEvPKzDuiDlXxSNS0tsm8p5rnFDY9x3gSCcCBaZfoyCRJNmwLCM/ UFQNxaeHEw4qdvJ+DHVirRuybYghh0Q6cL6xT6mKvXdvM3Rd9CXKlJDOxikNMFsoDP 1Ju4urs0IDFzufbXsV2wuQQCmKhTMBikTbdtHd1I= Original-Received: by carbon.jhcloos.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 6A211260042; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 05:11:56 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (=?utf-8?B?ItmF?= =?utf-8?B?2K3Ys9mGINio2YbYp9mGIidz?= message of "Tue, 02 Aug 2011 20:04:24 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQAgMAAABinRfyAAAACVBMVEX///8ZGXBQKKnCrDQ3 AAAAJElEQVQImWNgQAAXzwQg4SKASgAlXIEEiwsSIYBEcLaAtMEAADJnB+kKcKioAAAAAElFTkSu QmCC Copyright: Copyright 2011 James Cloos OpenPGP: ED7DAEA6; url=http://jhcloos.com/public_key/0xED7DAEA6.asc OpenPGP-Fingerprint: E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Original-Lines: 22 X-Hashcash: 1:30:110803:eliz@gnu.org::kJ56Ve0QYx/2ROi6:00008HNVN X-Hashcash: 1:30:110803:larsi@gnus.org::5dc2mKAyL7evc/TY:00RYNgQ X-Hashcash: 1:30:110803:emacs-devel@gnu.org::VIIgSrij76MBvo+O:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000On6YA X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 207.210.242.212 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:142780 Archived-At: > The same thing applies to the From Name. > First LAST in the above example. As I wrote earlier, gnus' summary buffer will become r2l with its default summary line format whenever the first article's sender's name is r2l and there are no marks, since everything before the sender's name is neutral. I did encounter an example shortly after I posted that. Setting bidi-paragraph-direction to left-to-right for the Summary buffer was indeed enough to render the buffer correctly. I don't know whether any gnus users customize their Group and Summary buffers to a non-English locale and would prefer a r2l buffer, but at least for those of us in en locales setting bidi-paragraph-direction to left-to-right in gnus' Groups and Summary buffers is the Right Thing To Do. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6