From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: James Cloos Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Turning off colorization Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2014 11:59:21 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87a944cm3x.fsf@moondust.localdomain> <20141107135721.GA22696@boo.workgroup> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415379720 2228 80.91.229.3 (7 Nov 2014 17:02:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 17:02:00 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 07 18:01:55 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xmmv5-0002Sn-5Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2014 18:01:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32884 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xmmv4-0002Pj-Ar for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2014 12:01:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33484) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xmmt4-0000D9-U6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2014 11:59:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xmmt3-0007rc-RR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2014 11:59:50 -0500 Original-Received: from ore.jhcloos.com ([2604:2880::b24d:a297]:51303) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xmmt3-0007qu-Ij for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2014 11:59:49 -0500 Original-Received: by ore.jhcloos.com (Postfix, from userid 10) id 28B691E311; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 16:59:46 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jhcloos.com; s=ore14; t=1415379586; bh=m9JmUnGUG0xwXbcG68WeJ+Tl4jhE5j6cmErTAi+1PSU=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=ectQF7MPUHvYpLKE508zx/yDigpry6z6fnEdZTfd6r0NDoBNJxyyOYA/cO13RrSbt uTqKRoQFjWiRQ/yHjWWojIH/a6IPaqJyo32TLrZz8/6qzB6HAJPG0Wa5GPngJi0wn1 4E2CT2SSkCNIv4aXkgslKFtZ+7p352Gqp6k+n4y4= Original-Received: by carbon.jhcloos.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 0B83960023; Fri, 7 Nov 2014 16:59:21 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <20141107135721.GA22696@boo.workgroup> (Gregor Zattler's message of "Fri, 7 Nov 2014 14:57:21 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQAgMAAABinRfyAAAACVBMVEX///8ZGXBQKKnCrDQ3 AAAAJElEQVQImWNgQAAXzwQg4SKASgAlXIEEiwsSIYBEcLaAtMEAADJnB+kKcKioAAAAAElFTkSu QmCC Copyright: Copyright 2014 James Cloos OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6; url=https://jhcloos.com/public_key/0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6.asc OpenPGP-Fingerprint: E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Original-Lines: 30 X-Hashcash: 1:28:141107:emacs-devel@gnu.org::RSh++G9fGJZwB/hx:000000000000000000000000000000000000000007mUiU X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2604:2880::b24d:a297 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176538 Archived-At: >>>>> "GZ" == Gregor Zattler writes: GZ> For the record this is also true without screen. Try eww on GZ> http://lwn.net/Articles in emacs on black rxvt-unicode: White GZ> background, bright blue (or something) letters. Quite GZ> unreadable. In screen, using emacs24-nox from deb sid, and with TERM=screen-256color I get the background changed to gray and cyan links. In screen with TERM=rxvt I get that same gray background but blue links. OTOH, with screen and TERM=rxvt-unicode I get my proper white background and blue links. Using TERM=rxvt-unicode-256color (the terminal's default TERM) in screen gives the white background but light cyan links. (In that last case the *scratch* buffer's comments are light green on white, vs red on white for TERM=rxvt-unicode.) That is all on a box w/ a very minimal ~/.emacs. W/ or w/o screen, w/ TERM=rxvt-unicode-256color or screen-256color, on my (Gentoo) workstation with emacs master, eww is OK. When the background is gray, the line is black on white; when the background is white the <title> line is black on green or black on mint green. But even when eww on a web site, w/in gnus I still get crappy backgrounds for most html email. And it often takes forever for shr to render. -JimC -- James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6