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From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)
Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never).
Date: 08 Apr 2004 17:44:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3ekqyqxso.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200404080203.LAA26847@etlken.m17n.org>

Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org> writes:

> In article <m3lll7b3j0.fsf_-_@kfs-l.imdomain.dk>, storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes:
> > I suggest that we make a complete feature freeze on HEAD for 21.4 NOW !!!
> 
> I have thought that we are going to take the following
> schedule.
> 
> (1) Release the current RC branch as 21.4.

I have no opinion on this.

> (2) Feature freeze on HEAD.

Yes.

> (3) Merge HEAD into RC branch, and make it 21.4.50.

There is no need to merge to the existing RC branch.

We just create a new RC branch from HEAD for 21.5 named EMACS_21_5_RC.

> (4) Merge Unicode branch into HEAD, and make it 22.0.0.

Yes.

I suggest we also merge the multi-tty branch to HEAD quickly.


> (5) Start pretest of 21.5 based on RC.

(With RC = 21_5_RC):

Fix all 21.4 => 21.5 references on RC.
Then start pretest from RC.

> (6) Release RC branch as 21.5.

Yes.

> ...
> (7) Feature freeze on HEAD (i.e. Unicode version)

I suppose that bidi support is not mature enough for 22.1 --

actually IMO, bidi support would warrent another major number,
i.e. 23.1.

> (8) Merge HEAD into RC branch, and make it 22.0.50.

No, again just make a 22_1_RC branch from HEAD.

> 
> Do you intend to skip (1)?  Perhaps, that will be better
> because we can avoid disappointing users who exepect new
> features in the release of this long delay.

Since there is some confusion as to what 21.4 is or would be, I
suggest we aim for using 21.5 as the version for the release from
the new RC branch.   If things take too long, we still have the option
to release 21.4 from the old RC branch.


> 
> > If we don't do it now, and start merging unicode and bidi to HEAD, I
> > fear that a 22.1 release is at least 1 year further into the future --
> > and that CVS HEAD will go through a phase of lesser stable code than
> > we have been used to for quite some time (I'm not judging the quality
> > of the code on those branches, it's just that it hasn't been tested to
> > the same extent as HEAD, so we should expect problems).
> 
> I agree.  But, I think bug-fixing work for 21.5 (or 21.4)
> must be done on RC branch so that (4) can be done promptly
> and we can have more users of Unicode version, which boosts
> the release of 22.1.

Yes, lets branch now for 21.5 and fix bugs on the RC branch.

-- 
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-04-08 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 187+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-10 16:25 Compilation to native Matthew Mundell
2004-03-20 21:52 ` Matthew Mundell
2004-03-21 19:21   ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-22 16:54     ` Juri Linkov
2004-03-22 21:37       ` Stefan Monnier
2004-03-23 13:56         ` Juri Linkov
2004-03-24 23:50           ` Matthew Mundell
2004-03-24 23:57             ` Miles Bader
2004-03-22 23:44       ` Matthew Mundell
2004-03-23 13:57         ` Juri Linkov
2004-03-24 23:51           ` Matthew Mundell
2004-03-23 17:47       ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-07 11:57         ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-07 12:45           ` David Kastrup
2004-04-07 13:12             ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-07 23:52               ` Alex Schroeder
2004-04-08  0:28                 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-08  2:35                 ` It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never) Kim F. Storm
2004-04-08  2:03                   ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-08  3:13                     ` John Wiegley
2004-04-08  4:25                       ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2004-04-08  5:58                         ` John Wiegley
2004-04-08 11:26                         ` Piet van Oostrum
2004-04-08  8:46                     ` Jason Rumney
2004-04-08 15:46                       ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-08 15:44                     ` Kim F. Storm [this message]
2004-04-08 15:06                       ` David Kastrup
2004-04-08 16:22                     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-09  1:36                       ` Miles Bader
2004-04-09 23:43                         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-09 23:58                           ` Miles Bader
2004-04-10  0:08                         ` Miles Bader
2004-04-10 18:31                           ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-10 17:53                             ` Romain Francoise
2004-04-10 22:06                               ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-11  3:08                             ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-11 11:04                               ` David Kastrup
2004-04-12  7:48                               ` Lőrentey Károly
2004-04-11  2:34                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-11  9:06                           ` Miles Bader
2004-04-12  4:24                             ` Miles Bader
2004-04-12 21:10                               ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-12 20:48                                 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-13 17:44                               ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-10 23:19                       ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-08  2:05                   ` Miles Bader
2004-04-08  2:34                     ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-08  3:39                       ` Miles Bader
2004-04-08 16:30                       ` Redisplay crash Stefan Monnier
2004-04-09  1:57                         ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-13 10:00                           ` Piet van Oostrum
2004-04-18 21:47                           ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-09 22:44                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-10 18:36                           ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-12  3:52                             ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-08  7:53                   ` It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never) Romain Francoise
2004-04-08 16:00                     ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-08 15:54                       ` Romain Francoise
2004-04-09 22:44                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-10  1:37                           ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-10  1:09                             ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-12  3:51                               ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-14 14:57                                 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-20 21:30                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-01 20:16                                     ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-01 23:21                                       ` Miles Bader
2004-05-01 21:49                                         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-02  7:30                                         ` David Kastrup
2004-05-02 16:06                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-02 18:12                                           ` Nick Roberts
2004-05-02 18:43                                             ` David Kastrup
2004-05-02 20:14                                               ` Nick Roberts
2004-05-03 10:29                                                 ` Jason Rumney
2004-05-03 14:03                                               ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-03 19:06                                                 ` Jan D.
2004-05-08  1:21                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-08 11:14                                                     ` Jan D.
2004-05-08 11:35                                                       ` David Kastrup
2004-05-09 10:38                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-12 10:00                                                         ` B&W icons (was It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never).) Jan D.
2004-05-02 19:16                                             ` It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never) Stefan Monnier
2004-05-02 22:26                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-03  5:44                                                 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-03  9:13                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-03  8:52                                     ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-03 13:21                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-03 22:20                                         ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-13 17:14                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-13 21:50                                             ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-13 22:48                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-14 12:18                                             ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2004-05-14 12:49                                               ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-03 21:00                                     ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-04  7:14                                       ` David Kastrup
2004-05-04  8:09                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-04  8:17                                           ` David Kastrup
2004-05-04  6:34                                             ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-04  8:52                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-04 13:45                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-04 13:58                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-04  8:26                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-04 13:44                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-04 14:26                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-04 14:37                                           ` David Kastrup
2004-05-04 20:07                                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-04 22:21                                         ` David Kastrup
2004-05-04 21:18                                           ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-04 23:49                                             ` David Kastrup
2004-05-05  0:23                                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-05  9:24                                                 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-04 22:24                                           ` Miles Bader
2004-05-05  1:04                                           ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-04-12  3:50                             ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-12  4:15                               ` Miles Bader
2004-04-13 17:44                                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-16 13:15                                 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-16 14:38                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-17  1:41                                     ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-17 17:10                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-19  4:40                                         ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-19 13:54                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-19 23:44                                             ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-19 23:59                                               ` Miles Bader
2004-04-20  0:38                                                 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-12  4:33                               ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-12 21:20                               ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-13  1:30                                 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-13 10:37                                   ` Kim F. Storm
     [not found]                       ` <lorentey.g.e.devel.87brlx1wku.elte@eris.elte.hu>
2004-04-14 10:59                         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-14 22:53                           ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-15  1:19                             ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-15 19:42                               ` Lőrentey Károly
2004-04-16 18:08                               ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-16 18:49                                 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-16 20:19                                   ` Display-local settings (was: It is time for a feature freeze) Stefan Monnier
2004-04-16 20:38                                     ` David Kastrup
2004-04-16 21:09                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-19 15:10                                       ` Display-local settings Lőrentey Károly
2004-04-19 17:49                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-20  4:48                                           ` Lőrentey Károly
2004-04-17 19:46                                   ` It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never) Richard Stallman
2004-04-19 15:49                                   ` Display-local variables (Re: It is time for a feature freeze) Lőrentey Károly
2004-04-19 22:09                                     ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-20  4:27                                       ` Lőrentey Károly
2004-04-20 10:18                                         ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-15 18:18                           ` It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never) Lőrentey Károly
2004-04-08  1:08               ` Compilation to native Richard Stallman
2004-04-08  1:31                 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-09 22:43                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-08  1:08           ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-13 23:12           ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-13 23:40             ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-14  1:17               ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-14  1:54                 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-15 11:11                 ` Pure strings (Re: Compilation to native) Juri Linkov
2004-04-18 21:47                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-19  6:36                     ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-19 14:20                       ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-19 23:39                         ` Kenichi Handa
2004-04-19 18:20                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-20  1:00                         ` Kenichi Handa
2004-03-22 23:42     ` Compilation to native Matthew Mundell
2004-03-23 17:48       ` Richard Stallman
2004-03-23 22:43         ` David Kastrup
2004-03-24 23:52         ` Matthew Mundell
2004-03-30 22:18         ` Matthew Mundell
2004-03-30 22:30           ` David Kastrup
2004-03-31 18:58             ` Matthew Mundell
2004-03-30 23:31           ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-01  4:42             ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-01  4:42           ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-02 16:38             ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-12 20:20           ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-12 20:57             ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-13 16:56               ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-13 17:32                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-13 19:03                   ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-13 21:00                     ` Miles Bader
2004-04-13 21:50                       ` Miles Bader
2004-04-14 22:49                       ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-16 14:22                       ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-13 20:51                   ` Miles Bader
2004-04-16 14:21                     ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-16 14:44                       ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-16 15:06                         ` Matthew Mundell
2004-04-16 14:20                 ` Matthew Mundell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-05-14  7:03 It is time for a feature freeze (it is NOW or never) David PONCE

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