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From: Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com>
To: Giuseppe Scrivano <gscrivano@gnu.org>
Cc: Emacs development discussions <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: advice needed for multi-threading patch
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:57:36 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3eiqv5i9r.fsf@fleche.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vdk7xy32.fsf@master.homenet> (Giuseppe Scrivano's message of "Sat, 29 Aug 2009 02:28:33 +0200")

>>>>> "Giuseppe" == Giuseppe Scrivano <gscrivano@gnu.org> writes:

Giuseppe> I only now saw this thread and multi-threaded Emacs is still
Giuseppe> in my wish-list :-) Do you already have some working code?

Yeah.  Well, I did ... it is not working today because I am in the
middle of changing the variable binding implementation and implementing
buffer locking.

Giuseppe> In my work, I didn't consider threads local storage for two
Giuseppe> reasons the first and most important is that elisp packages
Giuseppe> (yet?) don't know about it and wouldn't use; the second reason
Giuseppe> is that it adds a lot of complexity while I don't see much
Giuseppe> benefits so I chose simplicity.

I suspect we may be talking about different things.  When I say
thread-local storage, I just mean having 'let' bindings work properly
when two different threads use the same symbol name.

In case not: my goal was to write the smallest patch that would yield a
usefully multi-threaded Emacs.  It seemed to me that the binding issue
had to be dealt with somehow, because ignoring it would mean that the
resulting Emacs could not run any real programs.

As I saw it, the choices were either to undo and redo all the bindings
at every context switch, or implement thread-local bindings.  I looked
into both a bit, and thread-local bindings did not seem too hard, except
for defining the semantics of the interaction between multiple threads
and buffer-local variables.

Right now I have something similar to your patch (except using a single
thread-local current_thread pointer instead of arrays); plus changes to
the GC and to make DEFVAR_LISP work.

Tom




      reply	other threads:[~2009-08-29  4:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-26  4:38 advice needed for multi-threading patch Tom Tromey
2009-08-26  7:06 ` Ken Raeburn
2009-08-26 14:52   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-26 18:50     ` Ken Raeburn
2009-08-27  3:12       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-27  6:28         ` Ken Raeburn
2009-08-27 17:02           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-26 16:08   ` Tom Tromey
2009-08-26 18:50     ` Ken Raeburn
2009-08-27  5:07       ` Miles Bader
2009-08-27  6:39         ` Ken Raeburn
2009-08-27  6:50           ` Miles Bader
2009-08-28 20:48             ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-28 22:15               ` Miles Bader
2009-08-28 23:27                 ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-28 23:54                   ` Miles Bader
2009-08-29 20:21                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-26 15:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-26 15:31   ` Tom Tromey
2009-08-26 19:18     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-18 22:59       ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-19  0:09         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-09-19  0:32         ` Chong Yidong
2009-09-21 21:19         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-21 21:50           ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-22 14:24             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-22 23:59               ` Ken Raeburn
2009-09-23  3:11                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-23 15:53                 ` Chong Yidong
2009-09-23  3:16               ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-24 17:25                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-24 17:57                   ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-27 20:59                   ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-27 23:05                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-28  4:27                       ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-29  0:27                         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-29  2:26                           ` Ken Raeburn
2009-09-29  3:20                             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-29  3:57                               ` Ken Raeburn
2009-09-29  3:33                             ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-29  4:07                               ` Ken Raeburn
2009-09-29  2:30                           ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-23 18:43               ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2009-09-24 17:29                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-24 18:53                   ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2009-09-24 20:04                     ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-24 21:59                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-24 22:23                       ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2009-09-24 22:47                       ` Ken Raeburn
2009-09-28 14:52                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-10-05  6:02                       ` joakim
2009-09-28  7:44               ` Lynbech Christian
2009-08-29  0:28 ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2009-08-29  4:57   ` Tom Tromey [this message]

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