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From: James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>
To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: nljlistbox2@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Turning off colorization
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 17:51:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3egtde27a.fsf@carbon.jhcloos.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3mw8172bd.fsf@stories.gnus.org> (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 08 Nov 2014 23:30:30 +0100")

>>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

LMI> If I understand correctly, this is an issue with Emacs running under a
LMI> terminal?

Not only.  I also see it for some html mail in an athena frame.

LMI> I think the real fix here is to make Emacs ignore all colour specs if
LMI> Emacs can't determine the background colour of the terminal.

Some colour changes are OK, but the backgound should be untouched.

For example, xilinx.com's Product Design Advisories html mail is
rendered fine.  The colouring is minimal and legible.  The unusual
colour therein is due to html like:  <span style="color:#ec891d;">.

That orange colour works on both black and white.

At least for the headlines where it is used.

But a lot of mail includes background-color: specs, and that is best
ignored.  And perhaps when background-color is seen but ignored,
foreground colours also should be ignored?

So, I guess, a local style is generally preferred, but it is OK to
override short sections with whatever is in the mail.

I am not opposed to having to specify shr/eww's local style, whether via
a css stylesheet or via emacs face customizations.  Even though that
means extra work.

-JimC
-- 
James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com>         OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6



  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-08 22:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-04 16:43 Turning off colorization Richard Stallman
2014-11-04 17:11 ` Phillip Lord
2014-11-05  4:57   ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-05  9:11     ` David Kastrup
2014-11-05 11:31       ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-05 11:51         ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-05 12:49           ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-05 13:05             ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-05 11:52         ` Phillip Lord
2014-11-05 12:03           ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-11-05 12:30             ` Phillip Lord
2014-11-05 12:23         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-05 12:52           ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-05 17:06             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-05 17:30               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-05 17:35               ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-05 19:56                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-05 20:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-05 12:55           ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-05 13:00           ` Yoni Rabkin
2014-11-05 14:00           ` James Cloos
2014-11-05 18:13             ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-05 23:37               ` James Cloos
2014-11-06 10:05                 ` David Kastrup
2014-11-06 15:26                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-06 16:03                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-06 16:53                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07  7:13                         ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-07 14:43                           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-08  6:44                             ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-08 15:26                               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-09 20:06                                 ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-07  7:12                     ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-05 15:02         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-06 20:13           ` N. Jackson
2014-11-06 21:42             ` Tim Cross
2014-11-06 23:14             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07  0:10               ` Daniel Colascione
2014-11-07  4:13                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-05 18:12       ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-05 11:05     ` Phillip Lord
2014-11-04 20:59 ` Nic Ferrier
     [not found]   ` <CAG-q9=a+nTM3KhYeBfzvSZOWKMjdDgaUyQw25_NkAkoad3QwOw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-11-05  1:09     ` Kelvin White
2014-11-05  2:10       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-11-05  8:23         ` Harald Hanche-Olsen
2014-11-06 16:47 ` N. Jackson
2014-11-06 17:36   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-06 19:55     ` N. Jackson
2014-11-06 18:00   ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2014-11-06 19:44     ` N. Jackson
2014-11-06 19:44   ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-06 19:49     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-07  6:36       ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-07  7:06         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-07  7:59           ` Tassilo Horn
2014-11-07  9:00             ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-06 21:55   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-07  0:04   ` James Cloos
2014-11-07 13:57     ` Gregor Zattler
2014-11-07 14:02       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-07 14:47         ` Gregor Zattler
2014-11-07 15:06           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-07 15:27             ` Gregor Zattler
2014-11-07 16:59       ` James Cloos
2014-11-07 19:12         ` Mirek Kaim
2014-11-07 18:36       ` Andreas Schwab
2014-11-07  7:13   ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-07  8:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-08  6:44       ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-08  8:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-08 21:36           ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-08 22:18           ` James Cloos
2014-11-08 22:30             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-08 22:51               ` James Cloos [this message]
2014-11-09  1:30                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-11-09  3:51                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-10 15:29                   ` Mirek Kaim
2014-11-10 16:21                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-10 18:37                       ` Mirek Kaim
2014-11-11  1:32                         ` Yuri Khan
2014-11-11 17:58                           ` Mirek Kaim
2014-11-09  3:45                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-09 14:57                   ` James Cloos
2014-11-09 16:26                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-09 20:07                   ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-09 20:13                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-10 19:07                       ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-10 19:57                         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]     ` <<83r3xfs8mx.fsf@gnu.org>
2014-11-07 14:43       ` Drew Adams
2014-11-07 15:28         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-07 15:40           ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-07 16:08             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-08  6:44             ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-09  4:14 ` Paul W. Rankin
2014-11-09 20:08   ` Richard Stallman
2014-11-09 22:03   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-10  1:41     ` Paul Rankin

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