From: Lee Sau Dan <danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
Subject: Re: Chinese characters support
Date: 13 May 2003 09:40:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3d6in3oth.fsf@mika.informatik.uni-freiburg.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.5922.1052583563.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
>>>>> "Charles" == Charles Muller <acmuller@gol.com> writes:
Charles> Kai wrote:
>> Then I typed M-x view-hello-file RET. This showed me some
>> Chinese (and Japanese, and Korean) characters. If you see
>> empty boxes instead of the Chinese characters, then some fonts
>> are missing.
Charles> I should be pointed out, nonetheless, that it is a bad
Charles> idea to cite the hello file as an example of
Charles> international script functionality,
Why not? That file really illustrates the international script
functionality.
Charles> since it is set in an encoding that virtually no one ever
Charles> uses (at least in the CJK world),
That's a problem with encoding, not Emacs's international script
functionality. Maybe, you have "conformance to Unicode and national
encodings" in mind when you said "international script functionality".
They're different issues.
Charles> and it is quite often the case that that file will
Charles> display fine despite the fact that CJK won't work in
Charles> utf-8 or native East Asian encodings.
C-x RET c utf-8 C-x s ... does save my Chinese text files in UTF-8.
C-x RET c big5 C-x s ... does save my Chinese text files in BIG5 --
the "native" encoding for traditional Chinese.
And needless to say, I can read files in UTF-8 and big5 using C-x RET
c ... C-x C-f. (For Emacs 20, I need to install an external package
for Unicode encodings: MuleUCS or something like that.)
Charles> Someone should either get rid of that file or save it in
Charles> a relevant encoding.
Since no "native" encoding preserves the details that the emacs-mule
encoding saves, that "showoff" file must be kept in emacs-mule. e.g.
the section "Difference among chinese characters in GB, JIS, KSC,
BIG5" would be impossible with Unicode, GB, JIS, KSC or BIG5. Only
emacs-mule have enough coding space to accomodate all characters from
these encodings and yet not unify them to make them look
non-identical.
--
Lee Sau Dan 李守敦(Big5) ~{@nJX6X~}(HZ)
E-mail: danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de
Home page: http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~danlee
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[not found] <mailman.5730.1052348993.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-10 14:26 ` Chinese characters support Kai Großjohann
2003-05-10 16:17 ` Charles Muller
2003-05-10 16:45 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-10 17:31 ` Charles Muller
2003-05-10 18:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-11 2:11 ` Charles Muller
2003-05-11 3:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-11 13:59 ` Charles Muller
[not found] ` <mailman.5976.1052661651.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-12 19:29 ` Jason Rumney
2003-05-12 19:58 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-13 7:40 ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-05-13 9:57 ` acmuller
2003-05-13 10:02 ` Robin Hu
2003-05-15 8:07 ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-05-10 19:24 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-11 2:15 ` Charles Muller
2003-05-11 3:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.5956.1052619415.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-12 19:56 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-13 3:36 ` Charles Muller
2003-05-14 3:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.6084.1052797097.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-13 7:05 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-14 6:14 ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-05-14 16:27 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-14 21:07 ` Jason Rumney
[not found] ` <mailman.5927.1052587973.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-12 19:27 ` Jason Rumney
2003-05-13 7:40 ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-05-13 10:11 ` acmuller
2003-05-13 10:54 ` Charles Muller
[not found] ` <mailman.6097.1052826249.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-15 8:07 ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-05-10 17:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.5936.1052589798.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-13 7:40 ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-05-14 3:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.6156.1052882447.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-15 8:07 ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-05-16 11:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-12 23:05 ` Michael Na Li
2003-05-13 7:02 ` Kai Großjohann
[not found] ` <mailman.5922.1052583563.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-13 7:40 ` Lee Sau Dan [this message]
2003-05-07 23:08 Gaoyan Xie
2003-05-08 6:27 ` Charles Muller
[not found] ` <mailman.5739.1052375326.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-08 7:33 ` Robin Hu
2003-05-10 14:28 ` Kai Großjohann
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