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From: Lee Sau Dan <danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de>
Subject: Re: Chinese characters support
Date: 13 May 2003 09:40:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3d6in3oth.fsf@mika.informatik.uni-freiburg.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.5922.1052583563.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

>>>>> "Charles" == Charles Muller <acmuller@gol.com> writes:

    Charles> Kai wrote:
    >> Then I typed M-x view-hello-file RET.  This showed me some
    >> Chinese (and Japanese, and Korean) characters.  If you see
    >> empty boxes instead of the Chinese characters, then some fonts
    >> are missing.

    Charles> I should be pointed out, nonetheless, that it is a bad
    Charles> idea to cite the hello file as an example of
    Charles> international script functionality, 

Why  not?   That  file  really illustrates  the  international  script
functionality.


    Charles> since it is set in an encoding that virtually no one ever
    Charles> uses (at least in the CJK world), 

That's  a  problem with  encoding,  not  Emacs's international  script
functionality.  Maybe,  you have "conformance to  Unicode and national
encodings" in mind when you said "international script functionality".
They're different issues.



    Charles> and it is quite often the case that that file will
    Charles> display fine despite the fact that CJK won't work in
    Charles> utf-8 or native East Asian encodings. 

C-x RET c utf-8 C-x s ... does save my Chinese text files in UTF-8.
C-x RET c big5 C-x s ... does save my Chinese text files in BIG5 --
the "native" encoding for traditional Chinese.

And needless to say, I can read  files in UTF-8 and big5 using C-x RET
c ... C-x  C-f.  (For Emacs 20, I need to  install an external package
for Unicode encodings: MuleUCS or something like that.)


    Charles> Someone should either get rid of that file or save it in
    Charles> a relevant encoding.

Since no  "native" encoding preserves the details  that the emacs-mule
encoding saves, that "showoff" file  must be kept in emacs-mule.  e.g.
the  section "Difference  among chinese  characters in  GB,  JIS, KSC,
BIG5" would  be impossible with Unicode,  GB, JIS, KSC  or BIG5.  Only
emacs-mule have enough coding  space to accomodate all characters from
these  encodings   and  yet   not  unify  them   to  make   them  look
non-identical.




-- 
Lee Sau Dan                     李守敦(Big5)                    ~{@nJX6X~}(HZ) 

E-mail: danlee@informatik.uni-freiburg.de
Home page: http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~danlee

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-05-13  7:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.5730.1052348993.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-10 14:26 ` Chinese characters support Kai Großjohann
2003-05-10 16:17   ` Charles Muller
2003-05-10 16:45     ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-10 17:31       ` Charles Muller
2003-05-10 18:43         ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-11  2:11           ` Charles Muller
2003-05-11  3:32             ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-11 13:59               ` Charles Muller
     [not found]               ` <mailman.5976.1052661651.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-12 19:29                 ` Jason Rumney
2003-05-12 19:58                 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-13  7:40                 ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-05-13  9:57                   ` acmuller
2003-05-13 10:02                   ` Robin Hu
2003-05-15  8:07                     ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-05-10 19:24         ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-11  2:15           ` Charles Muller
2003-05-11  3:34             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]           ` <mailman.5956.1052619415.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-12 19:56             ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-13  3:36               ` Charles Muller
2003-05-14  3:14                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]               ` <mailman.6084.1052797097.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-13  7:05                 ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-14  6:14                 ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-05-14 16:27                   ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-14 21:07                     ` Jason Rumney
     [not found]       ` <mailman.5927.1052587973.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-12 19:27         ` Jason Rumney
2003-05-13  7:40         ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-05-13 10:11           ` acmuller
2003-05-13 10:54           ` Charles Muller
     [not found]           ` <mailman.6097.1052826249.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-15  8:07             ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-05-10 17:58     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]     ` <mailman.5936.1052589798.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-13  7:40       ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-05-14  3:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]         ` <mailman.6156.1052882447.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-15  8:07           ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-05-16 11:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-12 23:05   ` Michael Na Li
2003-05-13  7:02     ` Kai Großjohann
     [not found]   ` <mailman.5922.1052583563.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-13  7:40     ` Lee Sau Dan [this message]
2003-05-07 23:08 Gaoyan Xie
2003-05-08  6:27 ` Charles Muller
     [not found] ` <mailman.5739.1052375326.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-08  7:33   ` Robin Hu
2003-05-10 14:28   ` Kai Großjohann

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