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From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)
Cc: jet@gyve.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: info inconsistency about "Shell Commands in Dired"
Date: 26 Aug 2004 09:28:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3d61eqrxv.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200408252310.i7PNAiF13769@raven.dms.auburn.edu>

Luc Teirlinck <teirllm@dms.auburn.edu> writes:

>    It is worth thinking about.
>    I saw people discussing other methods, %s and envvars.
>    The envvar method is too inconvenient.  %s might be acceptable;
>    people mainly discussed how to implement it.
> 
> Actually, I now see one problem with the change I proposed.
> 
> Somebody might have gotten the habit of using *'' or ?'' instead of the
> recommended *"" to _prevent_ expansion.  That will no longer work and
> this might confuse people, unless they read the NEWS carefully.
> 
> If we go for a radically different syntax, then we could just take the
> example out of the manual for the time being and implement the new
> syntax for 21.5. 
> 


IMHO, we should remove the feature all-together -- or just keep it
as is and give a better example in the manual, e.g

        mv ? newname.c

as well as warnings for things that does not work, e.g.

        mv ? ?-old


Instead, we should have a command that inserts the current buffer's
file name at point (e.g. in the minibuffer).

Suppose we bind it to M-? -- then you could write

        m v SPC M-? SPC M-? - o l d RET

and even be given a chance to edit the current buffer file name.

Here's an sample implementation.  It obviously need to be enhanced to
know when it is called in a dired originated command, but I'll leave
that to the dired experts...

(defun insert-buffer-file-name (&optional arg)
  "Insert current buffer's file name.
With \\[universal-argument], insert absolute file name."
  (interactive "P")
  (let ((fn (or (buffer-file-name
                   (window-buffer
                     (or (minibuffer-selected-window)
                         (selected-window))))
                "")))
   (unless arg
     (setq fn (file-name-nondirectory fn)))
   (insert fn)))

(global-set-key [?\M-?] 'insert-buffer-file-name)


-- 
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk

  reply	other threads:[~2004-08-26  7:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-08-20 19:08 info inconsistency about "Shell Commands in Dired" Masatake YAMATO
2004-08-21  0:40 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-08-21  6:38   ` Masatake YAMATO
2004-08-21 20:18     ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-08-22 16:52       ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-21 20:35     ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-08-22  3:55       ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-08-22  4:05         ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-08-21 20:40     ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-08-21 21:24     ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-08-21 10:02   ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-08-21 16:50 ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-21 17:12   ` David Kastrup
2004-08-21 22:49     ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-08-21 23:08       ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-08-21 23:12         ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-08-22  4:17           ` Masatake YAMATO
2004-08-22  7:11             ` David Kastrup
2004-08-22 12:33               ` Masatake YAMATO
2004-08-22 12:59                 ` David Kastrup
2004-08-22 14:00                   ` Masatake YAMATO
2004-08-22 12:43             ` Masatake YAMATO
2004-08-22 15:31               ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-08-22 16:03                 ` Masatake YAMATO
2004-08-22 19:46                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-08-25  4:41                     ` Masatake YAMATO
2004-08-22 15:00             ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-08-22 15:39               ` Masatake YAMATO
2004-08-23 23:26       ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-25 22:36         ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-08-26  4:52           ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-26 21:16             ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-08-27 16:59               ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-27 17:25                 ` David Kastrup
2004-08-27 17:49                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-08-28 16:48                   ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-29 20:33                     ` Juri Linkov
2004-08-30 16:05                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-25 23:10         ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-08-26  7:28           ` Kim F. Storm [this message]
2004-08-26 14:53             ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-08-26 20:53             ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-27  7:21               ` Kim F. Storm
2004-08-28  1:35                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-08-22 16:52     ` Richard Stallman

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