From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Tromey Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: My emacs was upgraded and I am a novice again Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:17:11 -0600 Message-ID: References: <46F2BA57.3060604@gmail.com> Reply-To: tromey@redhat.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190403636 2181 80.91.229.12 (21 Sep 2007 19:40:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 21 21:40:36 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IYoMd-00053z-9W for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:40:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IYoMa-0002UV-V9 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:40:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IYoMJ-0002UF-Ib for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:40:15 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IYoMI-0002Tt-1g for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:40:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IYoMH-0002Tm-RV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:40:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mx2.redhat.com ([66.187.237.31]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IYoMH-0001H1-BY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:40:13 -0400 Original-Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx2.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l8LJeAIq017275 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:40:11 -0400 Original-Received: from pobox.corp.redhat.com (pobox.corp.redhat.com [10.11.255.20]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l8LJeAj9021814; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:40:10 -0400 Original-Received: from opsy.redhat.com (ton.toronto.redhat.com [172.16.14.15]) by pobox.corp.redhat.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l8LJe9Rb010983; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:40:09 -0400 Original-Received: by opsy.redhat.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 32CDC378AD4; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:17:11 -0600 (MDT) X-Attribution: Tom In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri\, 21 Sep 2007 13\:40\:30 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.990 (gnu/linux) X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:47729 Archived-At: >>>>> "Stefan" == Stefan Monnier writes: >> I swear I could use emacs for 20 years and still find out new things >> that I could find useful. Stefan> I've been an Emacs maintainer for what... 10 years? I still Stefan> occasionally bump into a bundled *package* that I've never Stefan> heard of. Most long-time Emacs users I talk to have a similar experience. I think this is one of the great joys of Emacs. On the minus side, discoverability remains a problem. Sometimes I wish I'd found those features years earlier. Tom