From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: James Cloos Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99650: Put scroll-bar on right by default on UNIX. Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:34:37 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87ocitw2dl.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268437077 29221 80.91.229.12 (12 Mar 2010 23:37:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:37:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 13 00:37:51 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NqEQP-0005Fl-H7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:37:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53174 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NqEOy-0008S8-Os for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:36:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NqEOu-0008Rl-AU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:36:16 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=35917 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NqEOs-0008RD-K6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:36:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NqEOn-0001lj-DS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:36:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eagle.jhcloos.com ([207.210.242.212]:60088) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NqEOn-0001ld-88 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:36:09 -0500 Original-Received: by eagle.jhcloos.com (Postfix, from userid 10) id 4E930400F5; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:35:43 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jhcloos.com; s=eagle; t=1268436967; bh=9DP5sqBWwmwnbZLvHNv12hSAgrgSXp80r2Ccf9p1G+w=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wlcOnltt2XfwDzJzZwtTVXmpJSp4A6N6JT+gBTX3Wj6UVdTpSo1QUTEl5AfNd6yug C3PobfoGg5gUb+AFttyrSvGNJqKXbe8jmwXCzSIm6KbbqtBQqTWD+QdV8ozFa/F4m8 ZZ2YVsEtATRCEgoc8c5jnetq+z3FRFf2GhgAVtgk= Original-Received: by lugabout.jhcloos.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id 06FF8A00D7; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:35:01 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87ocitw2dl.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:23:34 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1.90 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQCAYAAAAf8/9hAAAABHNCSVQICAgIfAhkiAAAAI1J REFUOE+lU9ESgCAIg64P1y+ngUdxhl5H8wFbbM0OmUiEhKkCYaZThXCo6KE5sCbA1DDX3genvO4d eBQgEMaM5qy6uWk4SfBYfdu9jvBN9nSVDOKRtwb+I3epboOsOX5pZbJNsBJFvmQQ05YMfieIBnYX FK2N6dOawd97r/e8RjkTLzmMsiVgrAoEugtviCM3v2WzjgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== Copyright: Copyright 2009 James Cloos OpenPGP: ED7DAEA6; url=http://jhcloos.com/public_key/0xED7DAEA6.asc OpenPGP-Fingerprint: E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Original-Lines: 22 X-Hashcash: 1:30:100312:cyd@stupidchicken.com::wx/EIjbsT3FQpRcs:0000000000000000000000000000000000000003GnQx X-Hashcash: 1:30:100312:emacs-devel@gnu.org::ZTCzwe/Mcr17wRxY:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000FtH8K X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:121877 Archived-At: >>>>> "CY" == Chong Yidong writes: CY> Try naming one other application on a modern CY> GNU/Linux desktop that does the opposite by default---they don't exist. Terminal emulators, which should be the basis for emacs' x11 frames. I've also seen it on other editors. CY> Beyond a certain point, conflicting with users' expectations does CY> more harm than good. On the right is in conflict with expectations, not on the left. CY> But, you can do CY> (set-scroll-bar-mode 'left) And do it, and do it, and do it again on every install. -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6