From: Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: Daniel Colascione <dan.colascione@gmail.com>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Patch for fields of `struct buffer'
Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 09:51:54 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3d3nbofyt.fsf@fleche.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1PkJHq-0007mT-3m@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 01 Feb 2011 11:41:02 -0500")
RMS> Your argument makes sense, for people using powerful machines.
RMS> I have a slow one, by today's standards, and I don't think it is
RMS> likely I will get a faster one (or multicore) for years if ever.
RMS> Many free software activists use the same machine for the same reason.
It is an empirical question as to whether this change slows things down
too much. I don't think it is the case that any slowdown is
unacceptable.
One thing worth noting is that if the concurrency branch is a huge
failure, it is simple to back out at least the buffer change. It can be
done with a perl one liner. And, since there is no performance penalty
possible until concurrency is actually merged, I think the risks
associated with moving forward are rather low.
RMS> Meanwhile, the big problem of making Emacs work with true parallelism
RMS> is not in the general mechanisms. It is in all the code that knows
RMS> it can only be interrupted due to an error or where it says QUIT.
RMS> If you want to test the feasibility of real parallelism, that's what
RMS> you need to work on.
The point of this patch series is to make it simpler to work on the
other problems on a branch. Without the infrastructure in place,
merging (in either direction) is simply too difficult. That is, it is a
stepping stone to getting cooperative threading, which itself is a
stepping stone to real parallelism.
Tom
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-02-01 16:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-27 20:18 Patch for fields of `struct buffer' Tom Tromey
2011-01-28 7:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-28 8:58 ` Tom Tromey
2011-01-28 9:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-29 12:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-29 13:33 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-01-29 13:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-02 18:17 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-02-02 19:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-28 14:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-28 17:38 ` Tom Tromey
2011-01-28 18:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-28 18:42 ` Tom Tromey
2011-01-28 20:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-28 17:23 ` Kim F. Storm
2011-01-28 17:36 ` Tom Tromey
2011-01-28 18:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-29 2:34 ` Miles Bader
2011-01-29 3:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-29 16:18 ` Richard Stallman
2011-01-30 20:23 ` Tom Tromey
2011-01-31 4:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-31 14:29 ` Tom Tromey
2011-01-31 15:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-31 15:30 ` Tom Tromey
2011-01-31 17:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-31 18:38 ` Tom Tromey
2011-01-31 20:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-31 20:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-31 20:05 ` Tom Tromey
2011-01-31 20:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-31 16:46 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2011-01-31 19:04 ` Tom Tromey
2011-01-31 22:08 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2011-02-01 10:54 ` Daniel Colascione
2011-02-07 2:34 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-07 19:48 ` concurrency suggestions for Gnus (was: Patch for fields of `struct buffer') Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-08 4:31 ` concurrency suggestions for Gnus Miles Bader
2011-02-08 12:55 ` Andy Moreton
2011-02-08 12:55 ` Justin Lilly
2011-02-08 14:41 ` bloom filters (was: concurrency suggestions for Gnus) Ted Zlatanov
2011-02-08 15:15 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-02-10 8:17 ` concurrency suggestions for Gnus Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-02-01 15:43 ` Patch for fields of `struct buffer' Stefan Monnier
2011-02-01 16:28 ` Helmut Eller
2011-02-07 2:47 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-07 2:44 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-07 8:05 ` Helmut Eller
2011-02-07 19:23 ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-08 16:30 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-08 16:26 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-08 17:57 ` Helmut Eller
2011-02-11 21:59 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-12 9:16 ` Helmut Eller
2011-02-08 21:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-31 19:38 ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-01 18:26 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-01 19:28 ` Paul Eggert
2011-02-01 19:42 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-09 10:16 ` Jim Meyering
2011-02-10 4:42 ` Miles Bader
2011-02-01 20:34 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-02-01 21:56 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-01 21:59 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-02 0:44 ` Paul Eggert
2011-02-02 3:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-02 16:26 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-02 16:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-08 15:07 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-08 21:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-08 21:08 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-08 21:21 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-09 21:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-08 21:58 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-02-01 22:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-08 16:38 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-11 21:48 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-12 2:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-31 19:37 ` Richard Stallman
2011-01-31 19:57 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-01 2:42 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-01 4:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-02-01 16:40 ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-01 16:44 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-02 2:42 ` Richard Stallman
2011-01-31 20:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-31 20:49 ` Tom Tromey
2011-01-31 21:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-13 19:01 ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-14 17:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-14 19:34 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-02-15 15:58 ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-15 20:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-01 16:39 ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-01 12:09 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-02-02 2:41 ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-01 10:26 ` Daniel Colascione
2011-02-01 12:10 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-02-01 14:23 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-02-01 16:19 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-02-01 17:08 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-02-01 19:57 ` Daniel Colascione
2011-02-01 20:06 ` Daniel Colascione
2011-02-01 16:41 ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-01 16:51 ` Tom Tromey [this message]
2011-02-02 2:42 ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-02 4:16 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-02 5:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-11 21:51 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-12 23:28 ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-13 20:26 ` Installing `struct buffer' patch (Was: Patch for fields of `struct buffer') Tom Tromey
2011-02-14 16:42 ` Installing `struct buffer' patch Chong Yidong
2011-02-14 16:48 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-14 16:52 ` Chong Yidong
2011-02-14 16:58 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-14 17:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-02-15 15:50 ` Chong Yidong
2011-02-16 14:55 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-15 15:57 ` Richard Stallman
2011-02-15 4:07 ` Glenn Morris
2011-02-15 14:28 ` Tom Tromey
2011-02-01 20:04 ` Patch for fields of `struct buffer' Daniel Colascione
2011-02-02 2:43 ` Richard Stallman
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