From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8368: 24.0.50; "temp" means "help" - rename or at least document Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:48:32 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1315767176 19883 80.91.229.12 (11 Sep 2011 18:52:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:52:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 8368@debbugs.gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 11 20:52:52 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2p98-0006Jq-LK for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:52:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46160 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R2p98-0003cS-9u for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:57:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8368) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2011 18:56:37 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2pCn-00014W-3M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:56:37 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R2pCk-00014O-UK for 8368@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:56:35 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=stories.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R2p8V-0005pe-Bh; Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:52:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:41:09 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEVQRGImGTHLzOX49/10 bYybmbeIp1R+AAACPklEQVQ4jW2SQZKjMAxF5S6xt6vIBUx8Aajs5ZS8pxnp/leZL+juSXUmgTj4 WfpfQrT9+qysFcsn/QYPH4H1Dax3/YNlf49ougD7e8SDodH6G9jqaMu2nmBdXiMOOvB7abyAteqE pckZUV9As1H/B2pT4m27zwHqC2iuclu2Zr8jmjvl52p0guOfs2raP7a75O+Ir6i1iQA8dj41jh8A Ce/Pral8i6/1zPUYg/q8teEXQA/Qhy0WU+Gl6f4T4eef5iZUjiaJQuLsM4579eFSyvOwcoL6Bczd XFL52DPA2iJ98z9bdZTnTDL2gjpWxx42l7W6H74Ll8lMT3BERMX+sIHKy5gSAJ7hCBROdfc996JU Cq0VkktEOAApUYcAFWptGPLDDhoOYaaE4w5X4eRYUcAFPhl5Jg2gw48HAnyI8ugJERoacXZB2FAV AUNADnFMntsBXVwgnwMtKSHTmmr40aFDiLuF+AVMza8AIpolTankFMCvVAqjSVTysDJ3AMg60kGA Ek0qqqlwYvKx4zaRqDpPdFgqibITXgC7AhAJZf1o2m93Rl4zBlCWECGrNnvUjq4oR36OO7G2nlF2 gNNohFKI31SwlXIAp3GVgOryPEsZllA9wRD8oBmMb8LZLCExkXs4hSDkhWZUXeI6CE7Zx51kwvum OCwFJVZowovtp6+Ywpx06pmdYBpb0VjGFGI084Ta506EoYspIHn66S4r3cIupcw28LYx4MRzVsZ8 RoEYFdiV6I1hFjIz8nIufwEjmdFkmASPbwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Nadja's _Radiance of Shadows_: "now i am become death the destroyer of worlds" X-MailScanner-ID: 1R2p8V-0005pe-Bh MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1316371931.69852@EOWkhN1T10na1KCPmWsuEg X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:57:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:50964 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > I think they were initially set up in Fundamental mode. > Then, once Help mode existed, it was the right thing for most of these > buffers, so it was useful to put them in Help mode. But there was > no way to make that optional without changing all the callers. > > There are other ways to handle this, but just deleting that code would > have bad results: most of these buffers would end up in Fundamental > mode. If `help-mode' is the correct mode for these buffers, then I think `with-output-to-temp-buffer' should be documented to put the buffer in help mode, and it should be done explicitly in the code -- not by having help.el alter `temp-buffer-setup-hook' when help.el is loaded. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/