From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Menu suggestion
Date: 25 Apr 2004 01:02:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3brlhrncv.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x5k706wfor.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>
David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
> We have the "Options" menu "CUA-style cut and paste"
>
> I think we should rename this to something like
>
> "C-x/C-c/C-v cut and paste"
>
> or "PC-like cut and paste".
>
> Now both names are obviously less complete and accurate as the current
> menu.
If you hoover the cursor over that menu item, it says:
Use C-z/C-x/C-c/C-v for undo/cut/copy/paste
I don't mind changing the menu text if people can agree on
something better.
>
> The problem with the current menu name, however, is that nobody has a
> clue what "CUA-style" is. Or at least: those that _do_ know CUA-style
> by name would have no trouble whatsoever to figure out the meaning of
> the less precise names.
>
> Whereas the other way round things happen to be different...
I had a wild idea some time ago --
Let the tutorial start out by telling about the ability to turn on
CUA-mode for the benefit of users who are used to the C-x C-c etc.
And of course how to do it.
Then, if the user actually turns on CUA-mode at this point (or has
done so already), the tutorial should automatically shift to show how
to use emacs with the CUA-style bindings.
A big advantage of this would be that the tutorial could just skip all
about native navigation --a user who already uses C-x C-c etc before
he starts learning emacs will also be using the cursor keys, pgdn
pgup, etc. So there's no reason to tell him about C-f C-b etc, or C-v
M-v etc. (and C-v doesn't work the emacs way anyway...).
This means that the average user will have a faster path to start
using emacs...
I know the keyboard purist elite is very fond of emacs' traditional
bindings, but they do make emacs more difficult to learn than
emacs+CUA.
WDYT about a CUA-aware tutorial.
--
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-04-24 23:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-04-23 21:24 Menu suggestion David Kastrup
2004-04-24 13:29 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-04-24 23:02 ` Kim F. Storm [this message]
2004-04-25 23:35 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-26 8:23 ` Default Emacs keybindings (was: Re: Menu suggestion) Per Abrahamsen
2004-04-26 13:35 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-04-26 14:22 ` Default Emacs keybindings Per Abrahamsen
2004-04-26 13:44 ` Default Emacs keybindings (was: Re: Menu suggestion) Alan Mackenzie
2004-04-26 15:16 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-26 22:33 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-26 21:36 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-26 23:06 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-04-27 14:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-27 14:22 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-29 19:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-24 14:08 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-26 16:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-26 17:01 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-27 23:53 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-28 21:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-27 23:59 ` Default Emacs keybindings Stefan Daschek
2004-04-30 13:06 ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-04-30 21:41 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-01 17:50 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-01 18:20 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-05-02 19:52 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-02 21:15 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-03 6:11 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2004-05-03 5:53 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-03 8:34 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-03 7:32 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-03 9:55 ` Miles Bader
2004-05-03 9:36 ` Kai Grossjohann
2004-05-07 12:34 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2004-05-03 9:08 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2004-05-03 7:25 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-03 9:51 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2004-05-03 10:33 ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-05-03 11:28 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-03 11:54 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2004-05-03 23:15 ` Masatake YAMATO
2004-05-04 0:11 ` Kenichi Handa
2004-05-03 22:21 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-03 22:59 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-04 6:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-04 7:02 ` David Kastrup
2004-05-04 7:42 ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-05-04 13:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-05-04 15:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
2004-05-04 21:45 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-04 21:35 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-05 5:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-05-05 14:29 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-05 22:20 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2004-05-05 14:34 ` Luc Teirlinck
2004-05-04 20:07 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-04 12:20 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-05-05 20:20 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-06 12:41 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-05-06 14:22 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-05-06 14:54 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-05-06 15:28 ` Andreas Schwab
2004-05-08 1:20 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-08 23:20 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-05-04 12:25 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-05-03 22:21 ` Richard Stallman
2004-05-03 7:48 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2004-04-26 9:56 ` Menu suggestion Kim F. Storm
2004-04-26 8:39 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-26 11:37 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-27 8:24 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-27 11:05 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-27 10:38 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2004-04-27 14:04 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-30 13:13 ` Per Abrahamsen
2004-04-30 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-30 17:30 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-30 19:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-30 19:55 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-03 7:18 ` Juanma Barranquero
2004-05-03 10:25 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-05-04 7:32 ` David Kastrup
2004-04-27 14:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-04-28 10:12 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-28 5:09 ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-28 6:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-04-28 5:55 ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-28 11:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-04-28 12:57 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-04-28 6:46 ` Miles Bader
2004-04-28 12:51 ` Robert J. Chassell
2004-04-29 10:44 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-29 11:27 ` Juri Linkov
2004-04-26 10:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-04-26 16:36 ` jargon translation up-front in doc (was: Menu suggestion) Drew Adams
2004-04-27 6:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-04-29 1:48 ` Drew Adams
2004-04-29 15:44 ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-04-29 17:37 ` Drew Adams
2004-04-29 23:36 ` Kim F. Storm
2004-04-29 23:48 ` Drew Adams
2004-04-30 9:02 ` Richard Stallman
2004-04-25 18:08 ` Menu suggestion Richard Stallman
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