From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: enriched-mode and switching major modes. Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:32:59 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200409042358.i84Nwjt19152@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200409060059.i860xdo20431@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200409110214.i8B2EaZ12276@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200409121651.i8CGpAE14303@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200409122001.i8CK14Q14510@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1095060835 27864 80.91.229.6 (13 Sep 2004 07:33:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 07:33:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: boris@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 13 09:33:35 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1C6lLD-0005iO-00 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:33:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C6lQi-0007zY-KD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 03:39:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C6lQb-0007wI-3P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 03:39:09 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1C6lQY-0007ux-TZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 03:39:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1C6lQY-0007ug-Mn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 03:39:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [212.88.64.25] (helo=mail-relay.sonofon.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C6lKc-0007Si-8i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 03:32:58 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 94972 invoked from network); 13 Sep 2004 07:32:57 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk) (213.83.150.2) by 0 with SMTP; 13 Sep 2004 07:32:57 -0000 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-Reply-To: <200409122001.i8CK14Q14510@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (Luc Teirlinck's message of "Sun, 12 Sep 2004 15:01:04 -0500 (CDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:27071 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:27071 Luc Teirlinck writes: > Kim Storm wrote: > > The question is: how old are these problems with enriched-mode ? > > They were present in 20.7. In current CVS, the worst of the problems, > the fact that hard newlines failed to work, has been fixed already by > making `use-hard-newlines' a permanent local. The fact that nobody > apparently complained about this probably means that currently people > only use Enriched mode to add some color and fontification to their text > and save it to file. People who use it this way may actually consider > lack of hard newlines a _good_ thing. I believe that the new _minor_ > mode should not enable hard newlines by default. Of course, the new > _major_ mode should. So the second question is: Do we really need to rework this for 21.4? I suggest that we keep things as they are now for 21.4 (with your patches installed), and add an entry to the TODO list for 22.1: Rework enriched-mode into a major mode, enriched-mode, and a minor mode, enriched-minor-mode. [you can add your specific thoughts about this split here]. Just my 2=C2=A2. --=20 Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk