From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: James Cloos Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] /srv/bzr/emacs/trunk r99650: Put scroll-baron right by default on UNIX. Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:16:41 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87ocitw2dl.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83pr371rl2.fsf@gnu.org> <873a03pmgn.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <20100314093329.GA1362@muc.de> <87pr37jh99.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87vdcxu72p.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268681343 8409 80.91.229.12 (15 Mar 2010 19:29:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:29:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'David Kastrup' , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 15 20:28:58 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NrFyE-0001k3-B2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:28:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56750 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NrFyD-0004ET-3a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:28:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NrFy7-0004E8-2J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:28:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=55795 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NrFy4-0004E0-KG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:28:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NrFy3-0002sH-LZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:28:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eagle.jhcloos.com ([207.210.242.212]:40898) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NrFy0-0002rg-DG; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:28:44 -0400 Original-Received: by eagle.jhcloos.com (Postfix, from userid 10) id 6E573402E4; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:28:18 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jhcloos.com; s=eagle; t=1268681322; bh=W5asCSF5vOaz/qTQV2WHCOa94cSqo5K8gjeIV+NVmug=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:Message-ID: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0sw1xsS2fS+Qgri1kKHXl6ExYqUEAWdHj5XqLJjiVi/WRlrfZzo7yY/VAh7XTyxJ/ Leik+pXiseJ1xdiT5bfvpTF6cckRnf/dUP3x+h0ycBUke42agogl1i5QogpkNRfzW2 SyAhSXj9IN6KPx5bRtOoflyLYayZwWrgYk8jGq6Y= Original-Received: by lugabout.jhcloos.org (Postfix, from userid 500) id CDE54A00DC; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:17:06 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:50:09 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1.90 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAABAAAAAQCAYAAAAf8/9hAAAABHNCSVQICAgIfAhkiAAAAI1J REFUOE+lU9ESgCAIg64P1y+ngUdxhl5H8wFbbM0OmUiEhKkCYaZThXCo6KE5sCbA1DDX3genvO4d eBQgEMaM5qy6uWk4SfBYfdu9jvBN9nSVDOKRtwb+I3epboOsOX5pZbJNsBJFvmQQ05YMfieIBnYX FK2N6dOawd97r/e8RjkTLzmMsiVgrAoEugtviCM3v2WzjgAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== Copyright: Copyright 2009 James Cloos OpenPGP: ED7DAEA6; url=http://jhcloos.com/public_key/0xED7DAEA6.asc OpenPGP-Fingerprint: E9E9 F828 61A4 6EA9 0F2B 63E7 997A 9F17 ED7D AEA6 Original-Lines: 22 X-Hashcash: 1:30:100315:drew.adams@oracle.com::Ux4lE7iN+v7sDaSH:0000000000000000000000000000000000000006izFJ X-Hashcash: 1:30:100315:dak@gnu.org::LYPF5ncfxsf0gEhH:00000Adwqm X-Hashcash: 1:30:100315:emacs-devel@gnu.org::yKuqqOH6NQpwylOs:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000mdqwn X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122021 Archived-At: >>>>> "DA" == Drew Adams writes: DA> But is it fortuitous or a general rule? If you change the frame text DA> size, does the scroll-bar width change accordingly? I tested it, and did some doc grepping. It is indeed merely a coincidence. And even appears to be the default width for Xaw3d. But I suspect that default was chosen to blend in well with default fonts in the 14 to 16 px range. So although it isn't automated, it probably is, none-the-less, by design. As you can probably guess, I agree that sizing the bars based on some one-to-one and onto function of the text font's size would be a good idea. I'm thinking the width should scale along the lines of, perhaps, the square root of the primary font's height? -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6