From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-d deleting region considered harmful Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:50:59 +0200 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Message-ID: References: <87eicrx1ls.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <83lj6zz9o0.fsf@gnu.org> <4C94ED16.8010100@gmail.com> <9DDC30C126BB4F8DBB4BDF7C977457B1@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1284836122 3586 80.91.229.12 (18 Sep 2010 18:55:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:55:22 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 18 20:55:19 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ox2ZD-00089z-Dm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:55:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60281 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ox2ZC-0001rN-Td for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:55:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=53238 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ox2Z5-0001qk-I2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:55:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ox2Z2-0004gL-36 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:55:11 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:54121) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ox2Z1-0004gG-M0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:55:08 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ox2Yz-00083B-CO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:55:05 +0200 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no ([84.215.34.171]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:55:05 +0200 Original-Received: from larsi by cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:55:05 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 17 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAFVBMVEUzGBd3OiNfMB+BRCiK UzCMbkK+s4pcbVUqAAACY0lEQVQ4jU3UwZKjIBAA0JaYOQdx5owEc1bAPRvFPWejcJ+pgf//hG2i MemqVIwv3SDQQkxRabvFOGqtaUsLeAAzdg+z2gZaM6Yp0y3VlNKW6S2DDmKPCj/s/Cyl3mqlOG+l jDpB7Zy7gbgQAJ7LDVzfALkmqG8NGH44tA8IrGkIqTsECICR5XqFSp0IpZ2br5PDUnDYIJqhATHg IG5aLICSL+iBFOWypBldAXJpnrMaAKe12LFMhGBX0KqHg1+sAiDG+h2CVprnwY6Qc8imeHuDFsBZ dfQ+uBh/3qDBMWbuH4Vj2MGonkA5irQIPvr4BraHDgFL3eEdrl0P0n7G6MNcH1+lbKsGIkccwoXg eChfg6vmIKd06cICF/uCYQCCE42/f/FnbZ7A1MCBjHg546xiPcnxCQp32sWAz7d45xYE51Yw0+Tj /RgGLLc4LJU2wWEp3I0YeG7T/5wrxxW0sqJzcYDjgg8eFis3oGqoav8teB0+gnfXstyhF9LdRfb1 62/eUVnqBywUz9VpPlXV5eb4nyX7fEFDiqFg1ZE7fnHZJ3tCMQiqBMuOlzscp8q+APej4gpU7RCo Ye0DZiyVgWhFF3xs8u5HyjVjTksC8FngOuEpnfrnrOaqaQvOJS5HOrrilD8z6Empipg6RrxPyO1w 3qG5iuKCCTyJegcq+AeeqNQERJoN/jGcbp2Ox5AyQOxwxkP9hXf88MgQcoN7gorD4RtS23Aitwe8 02LRrNUd9oc2LbO23KAqRux+s/U0vj/kDmvv40uEFuvVCoLqNTAnfSGvgC2r34LuQHGENfDFtNJ/ r8n/HDAzPxkAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Joni Mitchell's _Taming the Tiger_: "Lead Balloon" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:5yzgtSl6qqCh3+rpVssfqe4JWjw= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:130438 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: > Keep the default behavior as it was, and let users try the new Wunder > behavior optionally, if they so wish. While I have some sympathy for that train of thought (there's nothing as enraging as a trusted tool suddenly doing something unexpected), that means that all new users have to suffer forever with an old-timey behaviour, even though the new behaviour might make a lot more sense for new users. After all, experienced Emacs users know (or should know) that they can twiddle some variables to get any old behaviour back. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen