* Ido and hosts named with a single letter.
@ 2006-11-26 20:00 Michaël Cadilhac
2006-11-27 9:43 ` Kim F. Storm
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Michaël Cadilhac @ 2006-11-26 20:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Try this :
emacs -Q
M-x ido-mode
C-x C-f /tmp
Everything's okey.
Now, do the same but before, add a line with a `w' in your known hosts:
echo w >> ~/.ssh/known_hosts
It will result in the error « Login failed ». Disgracious.
I propose the following patch, which makes ido allow such host names.
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*** lisp/ido.el.~1.110.~ 2006-10-16 14:42:24.000000000 +0200
--- lisp/ido.el 2006-11-24 18:31:06.000000000 +0100
***************
*** 2068,2074 ****
(ido-set-current-directory (file-name-directory (substring ido-current-directory 0 -1))))
(setq ido-set-default-item t))
! ((and (string-match (if ido-enable-tramp-completion "..[:@]\\'" "..:\\'") ido-selected)
(ido-is-root-directory)) ;; Ange-ftp or Tramp
(ido-set-current-directory ido-current-directory ido-selected)
(ido-trace "tramp prefix" ido-selected)
--- 2068,2074 ----
(ido-set-current-directory (file-name-directory (substring ido-current-directory 0 -1))))
(setq ido-set-default-item t))
! ((and (string-match (if ido-enable-tramp-completion ".[:@]\\'" ".:\\'") ido-selected)
(ido-is-root-directory)) ;; Ange-ftp or Tramp
(ido-set-current-directory ido-current-directory ido-selected)
(ido-trace "tramp prefix" ido-selected)
***************
*** 2426,2432 ****
((and (= 1 (length ido-matches))
(not (and ido-enable-tramp-completion
(string-equal ido-current-directory "/")
! (string-match "..[@:]\\'" (ido-name (car ido-matches))))))
;; only one choice, so select it.
(if (not ido-confirm-unique-completion)
(exit-minibuffer)
--- 2426,2432 ----
((and (= 1 (length ido-matches))
(not (and ido-enable-tramp-completion
(string-equal ido-current-directory "/")
! (string-match ".[@:]\\'" (ido-name (car ido-matches))))))
;; only one choice, so select it.
(if (not ido-confirm-unique-completion)
(exit-minibuffer)
***************
*** 3433,3439 ****
(let ((default-directory ido-current-directory))
(ido-to-end ;; move ftp hosts and visited files to end
(delq nil (mapcar
! (lambda (x) (if (or (string-match "..:\\'" x)
(and (not (ido-final-slash x))
(get-file-buffer x))) x))
ido-temp-list)))))
--- 3433,3439 ----
(let ((default-directory ido-current-directory))
(ido-to-end ;; move ftp hosts and visited files to end
(delq nil (mapcar
! (lambda (x) (if (or (string-match ".:\\'" x)
(and (not (ido-final-slash x))
(get-file-buffer x))) x))
ido-temp-list)))))
***************
*** 4149,4155 ****
(setq refresh t))
))
! ((and (string-match (if ido-enable-tramp-completion "..[:@]\\'" "..:\\'") contents)
(ido-is-root-directory)) ;; Ange-ftp or tramp
(ido-set-current-directory ido-current-directory contents)
(when (ido-is-slow-ftp-host)
--- 4149,4155 ----
(setq refresh t))
))
! ((and (string-match (if ido-enable-tramp-completion ".[:@]\\'" ".:\\'") contents)
(ido-is-root-directory)) ;; Ange-ftp or tramp
(ido-set-current-directory ido-current-directory contents)
(when (ido-is-slow-ftp-host)
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--- lisp/ChangeLog 2006-11-24 18:34:40.000000000 +0100
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*** 0 ****
--- 1,5 ----
+ 2006-11-24 Michaël Cadilhac <michael.cadilhac@lrde.org>
+
+ * ido.el (ido-read-internal): Allow single letter named hosts.
+ (ido-complete, ido-make-file-list, ido-exhibit): Ditto.
+
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* Re: Ido and hosts named with a single letter.
2006-11-26 20:00 Ido and hosts named with a single letter Michaël Cadilhac
@ 2006-11-27 9:43 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-11-27 17:04 ` Michaël Cadilhac
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Kim F. Storm @ 2006-11-27 9:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
michael@cadilhac.name (Michaël Cadilhac) writes:
> Try this :
> emacs -Q
> M-x ido-mode
> C-x C-f /tmp
>
> Everything's okey.
> Now, do the same but before, add a line with a `w' in your known hosts:
> echo w >> ~/.ssh/known_hosts
>
> It will result in the error « Login failed ». Disgracious.
Thank you for the report.
>
> I propose the following patch, which makes ido allow such host names.
I have not checked, but IIRC, the .. is deliberate.
I would fear that this change will break ido on Windoze as it may then
confuse single letter hostnames and drive letters, e.g. c: vs. c: ...
I'll look for another way to fix this.
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* Re: Ido and hosts named with a single letter.
2006-11-27 9:43 ` Kim F. Storm
@ 2006-11-27 17:04 ` Michaël Cadilhac
2006-11-28 8:58 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-11-30 20:52 ` Ido and hosts named with a single letter Kim F. Storm
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Michaël Cadilhac @ 2006-11-27 17:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
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storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes:
> michael@cadilhac.name (Michaël Cadilhac) writes:
>
>> Try this :
>> emacs -Q
>> M-x ido-mode
>> C-x C-f /tmp
>>
>> Everything's okey.
>> Now, do the same but before, add a line with a `w' in your known hosts:
>> echo w >> ~/.ssh/known_hosts
>>
>> It will result in the error « Login failed ». Disgracious.
> IIRC, the .. is deliberate.
>
> I would fear that this change will break ido on Windoze as it may then
> confuse single letter hostnames and drive letters, e.g. c: vs. c: ...
You're completely right. The simpler solution is to not allow one
letter hostnames on MS Windows.
Maybe with the following :
[-- Attachment #1.1.2: ido.patch --]
[-- Type: text/x-patch, Size: 3986 bytes --]
*** lisp/ido.el.~1.110.~ 2006-10-16 14:42:24.000000000 +0200
--- lisp/ido.el 2006-11-27 16:58:30.000000000 +0100
***************
*** 1111,1116 ****
--- 1111,1122 ----
;; Set to 'ignore to inhibit switching between find-file/switch-buffer.
(defvar ido-context-switch-command)
+ ;; Regexp that matches a hostname.
+ (defconst ido-hostname-regexp
+ (if (memq system-type '(ms-dos windows-nt))
+ ".."
+ "."))
+
;;; FUNCTIONS
(defun ido-active (&optional merge)
***************
*** 2068,2074 ****
(ido-set-current-directory (file-name-directory (substring ido-current-directory 0 -1))))
(setq ido-set-default-item t))
! ((and (string-match (if ido-enable-tramp-completion "..[:@]\\'" "..:\\'") ido-selected)
(ido-is-root-directory)) ;; Ange-ftp or Tramp
(ido-set-current-directory ido-current-directory ido-selected)
(ido-trace "tramp prefix" ido-selected)
--- 2074,2082 ----
(ido-set-current-directory (file-name-directory (substring ido-current-directory 0 -1))))
(setq ido-set-default-item t))
! ((and (string-match (concat ido-hostname-regexp
! (if ido-enable-tramp-completion "[:@]\\'" ":\\'"))
! ido-selected)
(ido-is-root-directory)) ;; Ange-ftp or Tramp
(ido-set-current-directory ido-current-directory ido-selected)
(ido-trace "tramp prefix" ido-selected)
***************
*** 2426,2432 ****
((and (= 1 (length ido-matches))
(not (and ido-enable-tramp-completion
(string-equal ido-current-directory "/")
! (string-match "..[@:]\\'" (ido-name (car ido-matches))))))
;; only one choice, so select it.
(if (not ido-confirm-unique-completion)
(exit-minibuffer)
--- 2434,2441 ----
((and (= 1 (length ido-matches))
(not (and ido-enable-tramp-completion
(string-equal ido-current-directory "/")
! (string-match (concat ido-hostname-regexp "[@:]\\'")
! (ido-name (car ido-matches))))))
;; only one choice, so select it.
(if (not ido-confirm-unique-completion)
(exit-minibuffer)
***************
*** 3433,3439 ****
(let ((default-directory ido-current-directory))
(ido-to-end ;; move ftp hosts and visited files to end
(delq nil (mapcar
! (lambda (x) (if (or (string-match "..:\\'" x)
(and (not (ido-final-slash x))
(get-file-buffer x))) x))
ido-temp-list)))))
--- 3442,3448 ----
(let ((default-directory ido-current-directory))
(ido-to-end ;; move ftp hosts and visited files to end
(delq nil (mapcar
! (lambda (x) (if (or (string-match (concat ido-hostname-regexp ":\\'") x)
(and (not (ido-final-slash x))
(get-file-buffer x))) x))
ido-temp-list)))))
***************
*** 4149,4155 ****
(setq refresh t))
))
! ((and (string-match (if ido-enable-tramp-completion "..[:@]\\'" "..:\\'") contents)
(ido-is-root-directory)) ;; Ange-ftp or tramp
(ido-set-current-directory ido-current-directory contents)
(when (ido-is-slow-ftp-host)
--- 4158,4166 ----
(setq refresh t))
))
! ((and (string-match (concat ido-hostname-regexp
! (if ido-enable-tramp-completion "[:@]\\'" ":\\'"))
! contents)
(ido-is-root-directory)) ;; Ange-ftp or tramp
(ido-set-current-directory ido-current-directory contents)
(when (ido-is-slow-ftp-host)
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--- lisp/ChangeLog 2006-11-27 17:00:03.000000000 +0100
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*** 0 ****
--- 1,7 ----
+ 2006-11-27 Michaël Cadilhac <michael.cadilhac@lrde.org>
+
+ * ido.el (ido-hostname-regexp): New. Regexp that matches a hostname.
+ (ido-read-internal): Use it, allowing single letter named hosts on non
+ MS Windows systems.
+ (ido-complete, ido-make-file-list, ido-exhibit): Ditto.
+
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But it's probably better to do that : if the file actually exists (c:
should exist, I suppose), then use it. Otherwise, use tramp.
I can propose the following :
[-- Attachment #1.1.4: ido-2.patch --]
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*** lisp/ido.el.~1.110.~ 2006-10-16 14:42:24.000000000 +0200
--- lisp/ido.el 2006-11-27 17:54:36.000000000 +0100
***************
*** 1142,1147 ****
--- 1142,1152 ----
(pop-to-buffer b t t)
(setq truncate-lines t)))))
+ (defun ido-local-file-exists-p (file)
+ "Tell if FILE exists locally."
+ (let (file-name-handler-alist)
+ (file-exists-p file)))
+
(defun ido-unc-hosts (&optional query)
"Return list of UNC host names."
(let ((hosts
***************
*** 2068,2074 ****
(ido-set-current-directory (file-name-directory (substring ido-current-directory 0 -1))))
(setq ido-set-default-item t))
! ((and (string-match (if ido-enable-tramp-completion "..[:@]\\'" "..:\\'") ido-selected)
(ido-is-root-directory)) ;; Ange-ftp or Tramp
(ido-set-current-directory ido-current-directory ido-selected)
(ido-trace "tramp prefix" ido-selected)
--- 2073,2080 ----
(ido-set-current-directory (file-name-directory (substring ido-current-directory 0 -1))))
(setq ido-set-default-item t))
! ((and (not (ido-local-file-exists-p ido-selected))
! (string-match (if ido-enable-tramp-completion ".[:@]\\'" ".:\\'") ido-selected)
(ido-is-root-directory)) ;; Ange-ftp or Tramp
(ido-set-current-directory ido-current-directory ido-selected)
(ido-trace "tramp prefix" ido-selected)
***************
*** 2426,2432 ****
((and (= 1 (length ido-matches))
(not (and ido-enable-tramp-completion
(string-equal ido-current-directory "/")
! (string-match "..[@:]\\'" (ido-name (car ido-matches))))))
;; only one choice, so select it.
(if (not ido-confirm-unique-completion)
(exit-minibuffer)
--- 2432,2439 ----
((and (= 1 (length ido-matches))
(not (and ido-enable-tramp-completion
(string-equal ido-current-directory "/")
! (not (ido-local-file-exists-p (ido-name (car ido-matches))))
! (string-match ".[@:]\\'" (ido-name (car ido-matches))))))
;; only one choice, so select it.
(if (not ido-confirm-unique-completion)
(exit-minibuffer)
***************
*** 3433,3441 ****
(let ((default-directory ido-current-directory))
(ido-to-end ;; move ftp hosts and visited files to end
(delq nil (mapcar
! (lambda (x) (if (or (string-match "..:\\'" x)
(and (not (ido-final-slash x))
! (get-file-buffer x))) x))
ido-temp-list)))))
(ido-to-end ;; move . files to end
(delq nil (mapcar
--- 3440,3450 ----
(let ((default-directory ido-current-directory))
(ido-to-end ;; move ftp hosts and visited files to end
(delq nil (mapcar
! (lambda (x) (if (or (and (not (ido-local-file-exists-p x))
! (string-match ".:\\'" x))
(and (not (ido-final-slash x))
! (let (file-name-handler-alist)
! (get-file-buffer x)))) x))
ido-temp-list)))))
(ido-to-end ;; move . files to end
(delq nil (mapcar
***************
*** 4149,4155 ****
(setq refresh t))
))
! ((and (string-match (if ido-enable-tramp-completion "..[:@]\\'" "..:\\'") contents)
(ido-is-root-directory)) ;; Ange-ftp or tramp
(ido-set-current-directory ido-current-directory contents)
(when (ido-is-slow-ftp-host)
--- 4158,4165 ----
(setq refresh t))
))
! ((and (not (ido-local-file-exists-p contents))
! (string-match (if ido-enable-tramp-completion ".[:@]\\'" ".:\\'") contents)
(ido-is-root-directory)) ;; Ange-ftp or tramp
(ido-set-current-directory ido-current-directory contents)
(when (ido-is-slow-ftp-host)
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--- lisp/ChangeLog 2006-11-27 17:58:48.000000000 +0100
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*** 0 ****
--- 1,8 ----
+ 2006-11-27 Michaël Cadilhac <michael.cadilhac@lrde.org>
+
+ * ido.el (ido-local-file-exists-p): New. Tell if a file exists
+ locally, i.e. without using file name handlers.
+ (ido-read-internal): Allow mono letter host names, avoiding the
+ `c:' problem by testing if the file exists locally.
+ (ido-complete, ido-make-file-list, ido-exhibit): Ditto.
+
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but I really don't know if it works on Windows.
BTW, something tickles me about all that: why functions like
file-exists-p & co doesn't check if the file is not an actual
stat(2)-able file before getting any fanciness with file name
handlers ?
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* Re: Ido and hosts named with a single letter.
2006-11-27 17:04 ` Michaël Cadilhac
@ 2006-11-28 8:58 ` Kim F. Storm
2006-11-28 13:13 ` File name handlers and local files Michaël Cadilhac
2006-11-30 20:52 ` Ido and hosts named with a single letter Kim F. Storm
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From: Kim F. Storm @ 2006-11-28 8:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
Hi Michael,
Thank you very much for working on this.
The first approach will probably work, but I definitely like
the second approach better.
I'll try it on Windoze and let you know if it works.
>
> BTW, something tickles me about all that: why functions like
> file-exists-p & co doesn't check if the file is not an actual
> stat(2)-able file before getting any fanciness with file name
> handlers ?
Yes, I've been hit by this many times while working on ido.
Your "ido-local-file-exists-p" approach is clever.
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* File name handlers and local files.
2006-11-28 8:58 ` Kim F. Storm
@ 2006-11-28 13:13 ` Michaël Cadilhac
2006-11-28 14:50 ` Michael Albinus
2006-11-28 14:54 ` Andreas Schwab
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From: Michaël Cadilhac @ 2006-11-28 13:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
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storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes:
>> BTW, something tickles me about all that: why functions like
>> file-exists-p & co doesn't check if the file is not an actual
>> stat(2)-able file before getting any fanciness with file name
>> handlers ?
>
> Yes, I've been hit by this many times while working on ido.
It's probably worth the ask in another thread.
Let's suppose my sysadmin is a weird guy. Very weird. And he decided
that a common NFS data directory will be created on the / with the
name 'data:', because he had a difficult childhood and loves The
Windows Way.
When I try to edit a file in that directory, I use : C-x C-f /data:/test
Oh, weirder! Even if a `data:' directory exists, it just tries to use
tramp !
Okey, this is a hard case, because the `test' file doesn't exist, and
it may exist on the distant host `data'.
But simpler: let's just try (file-exists-p "/data:"). The file name
handler having the precedence on local files, it tries to ssh to
`data:'. Isn't that a pity?
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* Re: File name handlers and local files.
2006-11-28 13:13 ` File name handlers and local files Michaël Cadilhac
@ 2006-11-28 14:50 ` Michael Albinus
2006-11-28 15:13 ` Michaël Cadilhac
2006-11-28 14:54 ` Andreas Schwab
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From: Michael Albinus @ 2006-11-28 14:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
michael@cadilhac.name (Michaël Cadilhac) writes:
> Let's suppose my sysadmin is a weird guy. Very weird. And he decided
> that a common NFS data directory will be created on the / with the
> name 'data:', because he had a difficult childhood and loves The
> Windows Way.
>
> When I try to edit a file in that directory, I use : C-x C-f /data:/test
You shall type C-x C-f /:/data:/test
See Emacs manual "(emacs)Quoted File Names".
Best regards, Michael.
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* Re: File name handlers and local files.
2006-11-28 13:13 ` File name handlers and local files Michaël Cadilhac
2006-11-28 14:50 ` Michael Albinus
@ 2006-11-28 14:54 ` Andreas Schwab
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From: Andreas Schwab @ 2006-11-28 14:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
michael@cadilhac.name (Michaël Cadilhac) writes:
> When I try to edit a file in that directory, I use : C-x C-f /data:/test
>
> Oh, weirder! Even if a `data:' directory exists, it just tries to use
> tramp !
Use "/:/data:/test" instead.
Andreas.
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* Re: File name handlers and local files.
2006-11-28 14:50 ` Michael Albinus
@ 2006-11-28 15:13 ` Michaël Cadilhac
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From: Michaël Cadilhac @ 2006-11-28 15:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
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Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> writes:
> michael@cadilhac.name (Michaël Cadilhac) writes:
>
>> Let's suppose my sysadmin is a weird guy. Very weird. And he decided
>> that a common NFS data directory will be created on the / with the
>> name 'data:', because he had a difficult childhood and loves The
>> Windows Way.
>>
>> When I try to edit a file in that directory, I use : C-x C-f /data:/test
>
> You shall type C-x C-f /:/data:/test
>
> See Emacs manual "(emacs)Quoted File Names".
Right, but Ido has problems with that, and this is due to the
awkwardness of those functions AFAICT.
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* Re: Ido and hosts named with a single letter.
2006-11-27 17:04 ` Michaël Cadilhac
2006-11-28 8:58 ` Kim F. Storm
@ 2006-11-30 20:52 ` Kim F. Storm
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From: Kim F. Storm @ 2006-11-30 20:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
michael@cadilhac.name (Michaël Cadilhac) writes:
> But it's probably better to do that : if the file actually exists (c:
> should exist, I suppose), then use it. Otherwise, use tramp.
>
> I can propose the following :
>
>
> *** lisp/ido.el.~1.110.~ 2006-10-16 14:42:24.000000000 +0200
> --- lisp/ido.el 2006-11-27 17:54:36.000000000 +0100
> ***************
> *** 1142,1147 ****
> --- 1142,1152 ----
> (pop-to-buffer b t t)
> (setq truncate-lines t)))))
>
> + (defun ido-local-file-exists-p (file)
> + "Tell if FILE exists locally."
> + (let (file-name-handler-alist)
> + (file-exists-p file)))
> +
> ...
I checked that this approach does work on Windoze (as far as I could see).
I changed a few things, and committed the change.
Thanks for working on improving ido.
--
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk
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