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From: Tom Tromey <tromey@redhat.com>
To: Stephen Eilert <spedrosa@gmail.com>
Cc: phil@hagelb.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: Re: Emacs Package Management
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:44:05 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3ab0uny56.fsf@fleche.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <485b0c380909161536t331a71fdg1c45150c418b72b2@mail.gmail.com> (Stephen Eilert's message of "Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:36:29 -0300")

>>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen Eilert <spedrosa@gmail.com> writes:

Stephen> To sum it up: there *is* interest in a packaging feature, and
Stephen> the issues seem to be mostly in the area of copyright
Stephen> assignment.

I suppose copyright assignment of packages.  There is no issue with
package.el itself, I will donate it any time.

Stephen> ELPA is a nice starting point. But I think it is
Stephen> disproportionally easy to download packages, as opposed to
Stephen> submitting them. For single files, I would very much like to
Stephen> have a M-x submit-package, and have it do anything required to
Stephen> upload it, adding licenses and so on.

Yeah.  I would like this too, but that would mean finding time to write
the web app and everything else :-)

Stephen> Dependencies management is also nice, but we'd have to have a
Stephen> way to identify packages.

Yes, this is something that package.el provides.  One thing that would
be nice is to have Emacs also advertise the packages it provides -- that
is, the ones that are also on separate release schedules.  Right now I
track this information by hand, but that is somewhat error prone.

Stephen> And, most importantly, failing packages should not interrupt
Stephen> emacs startup.  I've implemented a simple system(for my own
Stephen> use) where it creates a buffer with package load
Stephen> status. Failing packages are skipped, but obviously there is no
Stephen> way to undo side-effects.

If this is a problem with package.el or some package in ELPA, please
send me some email (preferably to the ELPA address).  I will try to fix
any problems soon.

In general my rule with ELPA has been to try to avoid this problem by
only uploading packages that will at least properly "activate".  Testing
this could be automated and made more robust, but again, I have little
time.

Tom




  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-17  1:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-01 21:27 Emacs Package Management Stephen Eilert
2008-08-01 22:58 ` Tom Tromey
2008-08-01 23:14   ` Phil Hagelberg
2008-08-01 23:25     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-02  0:13       ` Tom Tromey
2008-08-03  1:33     ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-08-03 18:03       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-08-04 15:33         ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-08-04 19:07           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-08-05  8:04             ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-08-05 13:09               ` Stephen Eilert
2008-08-05 14:39                 ` Paul R
2008-08-06  3:35                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2009-09-16 22:36                   ` Stephen Eilert
2009-09-17  1:44                     ` Tom Tromey [this message]
2009-09-17 13:43                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-17 14:26                         ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-17 14:58                         ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-09-28 21:13                         ` Phil Hagelberg
2009-09-28 21:48                           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-09-28 21:54                           ` Chong Yidong
2009-09-28 22:30                             ` Phil Hagelberg
2009-09-29 11:31                             ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-29 19:18                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-29 19:41                                 ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-30  1:20                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-30  2:07                                     ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-30  4:39                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-30 20:18                                 ` Tom Tromey
2009-10-01  5:01                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-08-02  1:58   ` Stephen Eilert
2008-08-02  3:36     ` Tom Tromey
2008-08-02 17:30     ` Richard M Stallman
2008-08-12  4:10   ` Thomas Lord
2009-09-12 22:38   ` Phil Hagelberg
2009-09-12 23:30     ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-09-13 16:40     ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-14  9:07       ` joakim
2009-09-14  9:26         ` David Kastrup
2009-09-15  7:16         ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-15  8:30           ` Miles Bader
2009-09-15 18:15             ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-15 18:58             ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-15 22:08               ` Miles Bader
2009-09-16 15:16               ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-16 18:41             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-17  1:05               ` Geoff Gole
2009-09-17 19:50                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-15 18:55       ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-17  6:37         ` Richard Stallman
2009-09-17  8:28           ` Tassilo Horn
2009-09-17  8:37             ` joakim
2009-09-17  8:48               ` Lennart Borgman
2009-09-17  9:31               ` Tassilo Horn
2009-09-17 10:43                 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-09-17 11:50                 ` Rupert Swarbrick
2009-09-19  2:40                   ` Bob Rogers
2009-09-19 12:10                     ` Rupert Swarbrick
2009-09-17 14:24                 ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-17 19:22                   ` Tassilo Horn
2009-09-17 15:04                 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-09-17 13:46               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-09-17 14:21             ` Tom Tromey
2009-09-13 17:00     ` Eric Schulte
2008-08-02 14:46 ` Paul R

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