From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: joakim@verona.se Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Integrating package.el Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:36:08 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87d41rn3wt.fsf_-_@hagelb.org> <87k4vxiwlj.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878wcdjg9r.fsf@hagelb.org> <87637gh73j.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87637b96pc.fsf@hagelb.org> <87wrzr6ugo.fsf@hagelb.org> <87ocl242jc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d41ihx9g.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87ocl167wx.fsf@hagelb.org> <8763795zsh.fsf@hagelb.org> <87r5pmwcf8.fsf@hagelb.org> <87ocjh2hyp.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1266871001 11962 80.91.229.12 (22 Feb 2010 20:36:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:36:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 22 21:36:33 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Njf11-0002IY-PP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:36:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49715 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Njf11-0006om-6b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:36:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Njf0u-0006nE-HF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:36:20 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51754 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Njf0t-0006mg-Nj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:36:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Njf0s-0006R2-5c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:36:19 -0500 Original-Received: from iwfs.imcode.com ([82.115.149.64]:51610 helo=gate.verona.se) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Njf0r-0006QK-Oy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:36:18 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:1005@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gate.verona.se (8.13.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id o1MKa8Qq026355; Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:36:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87ocjh2hyp.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:22:54 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:121284 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 03:40:11 -0800 Phil Hagelberg wrote: > > PH> Phil Hagelberg writes: >>>> Basically, all I want is for it to be able to distinguish between >>>> "packages available locally, either installed by the user or the >>>> sysadmin", and "packages that will be autoloaded in a given session", so >>>> as to be able to install different versions of the same package at the >>>> same time. >>> >>> OK, I will prioritize this once I finish adding support for multiple >>> archive sources. I think we'll need this in order to support separating >>> out fully-supported packages vs unsupported packages for which we simply >>> have copyright assignment as Ted has suggested. > > PH> I've just implemented support for multiple package sources in > PH> package.el. Right now it is preconfigured to use ELPA, but the following > PH> snippet will let it pull in packages from my own archive source as well: > > PH> (add-to-list 'package-archives > PH> '("technomancy" . "http://repo.technomancy.us/emacs/") t) > > PH> Hit M-x package-list-packages to see all available packages. The "bork" > PH> and "bingle" packages are dummies that are only available from my > PH> repository, and should be available for installation at the same time as > PH> the standard ELPA-provided packages. > > PH> I'd love to see some other elisp library authors try to set up their own > PH> package archive sources using package-maint.el and test the > PH> multiple-archive support. > > PH> I hope that a new version of package.el incorporating my changes could > PH> be pushed out to ELPA and then possibly included in Emacs once a little > PH> more work has gone into integration with the Emacs load process. > > Hi Phil, > > that's wonderful news. I was just reading (and commented) at > http://monkey.org/~marius/self-contained-emacs.html about how package.el > with custom repositories could solve a very common need to have a > "personalized" self-contained Emacs. Thats a brilliant idea! > Have you considered support for non-HTTP sources? I'm OK with HTTP only > for now but I think a Bazaar source would make sense if there's going to > be a ELPA-style repository inside Emacs itself. Also are file:/// URLs > supported? > > What remains to be done to make package.el a part of Emacs? I think > Dan Nicolaescu's suggestion about menus makes sense. Is there anything > else? > > Once it's in the core we can start work on making more Emacs packages > installable directly. Again, I think this is great progress and I > appreciate your work. > > Thanks > Ted > > -- Joakim Verona