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X-Received-From: 80.91.224.195 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178613 Archived-At: Paul Eggert writes: > I'm not the only one to run into this problem; see the thread > "Intelligently opening large files in emacs" > > in this mailing list earlier this year. There, the proposed solution > was to use find-file-literally for files larger than a certain size. > Perhaps Emacs should do this by default -- it'd be a nicer user > experience in many ways than what we have now, and it should be easy > to implement. The use case for opening huge files is log files and the like, and you usually want to see those as "raw" as possible, I think. What about a new, trivial mode for these buffers? We open huge files with `find-file-literally', display a message like "Press `M-something' to put buffer into mode foo", and change to that new, trivial mode (which would just have that one keybinding). -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no