From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: binding ibuffer to C-x C-b by default Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 16:06:46 +0200 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Message-ID: References: <8F022F3B2C5D4C2AB8A90CBDD7660FF1@us.oracle.com> <878w29a5ns.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87zkup8qaw.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87eic14gfs.fsf@telefonica.net> <877hht4dyt.fsf@telefonica.net> <87mxqox037.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1286546837 8090 80.91.229.12 (8 Oct 2010 14:07:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 14:07:17 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 08 16:07:16 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P4DbQ-0006cx-Ga for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 16:07:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54339 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P4DbP-00046V-Q7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 10:07:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=53775 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P4DbD-00044o-Te for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 10:07:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P4Db5-0002Ms-Il for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 10:07:00 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:51060) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P4Db5-0002M9-8p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 10:06:55 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P4Db3-0006TY-1j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 16:06:53 +0200 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no ([84.215.34.171]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 16:06:53 +0200 Original-Received: from larsi by cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 08 Oct 2010 16:06:53 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.215.34.171.getinternet.no Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAD1BMVEUJAgwFAAgpISsIAQvL xsMb7Te5AAACMElEQVQ4jXVTi5HjMAhFlguQVg3oWAqAcAVkFPqv6R6y97Jzs8dM4oTH4/PAVAep VlKqRFXVqw2z5oWoFyaihIkUYW7t4RnaTaJ6byDRqIafpyCCSu8ARnfQqMDjTYKGkfUz4mmDZZ6x mEr5iFjDqSew6gEUQKxpj4iwDkYTarIAULDEolpkjgGgSz1jAjiCkk0upSkA+9BglQgOEqDL2fpm DIqqmQw85IvPBid184NjtljgrJjZhd9APCMEJQ7m+CVxxKdZtotmMkvtGH96Jltlz5F9xwIbJUuL iZSlX4xITWygjTKQLri4k1oVjkreu6v7UGSFH0vAfyQl+MhLdTtXKVUNgDaZRbEPTYFJl7miuHZ9 8NwuOq4HltlTdqixMJbk12ULvWBRHjkf7BuAhVr3lGmmrJghJY6XYw6zgVSpyht4VhSvqLHozrYS mAhpeSUuz6x/fgGcxdGbjdZqY1Imno9Pn42nJ+CtDx/oWl3zIHvX4ntW7QDdcFIJ4BKRPQE0dmtx fVUo7m1fbd9LxUqzseeS1WsGNSoCPdaSXJFwAuQb8N8JhGxGiuY0lDLdVeOYx0HM0Nh9NwhA1utk 3A6iQ163M49f1lOwYMom5EVfANFOvpXMJ5x+LwynxnPy5DSss+Yx3HaxcwBNQG8KuBl5TL1D/I4/ 8pj35+QdeRlepL/DnXmI7QbiH9t70q9uU6f7SG4pEln59qXN/P0GSJK28p2lRT+a6s9++p//bX8A VtiOSA72xV8AAAAASUVORK5CYII= Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Scritti Politti's _White Bread Black Beer_: "Throw" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:yizT+gMqKvP1vi9K6UlmarPFVGU= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:131498 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > The convention is to use TAB and M-TAB to move between groups of items > (which would apply here). > > I need to use left/right cursor movement all the time to copy things. > It's really annoying when they are rebound. w3m-mode does that too IIRC. Yup. How about if we just change / to the more common TAB things, and drop the / special wrapping bindings, drop the (bury-buffer), and make it the default? After getting the major annoyances out of the way, we can then see how people like the new mode. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen