From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: STARTTLS for erc Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:25:54 +0200 Organization: Programmerer Ingebrigtsen Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1309172334 8534 80.91.229.12 (27 Jun 2011 10:58:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 10:58:54 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 27 12:58:50 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qb9Wd-0006DH-Qx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:58:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58022 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qb9Wb-0002Xa-Rd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:58:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:50248) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qb91B-0002RK-BG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:26:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qb919-0004pI-6D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:26:13 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:49173) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qb918-0004pC-JX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 06:26:10 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qb916-0001zv-M9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:26:08 +0200 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:26:08 +0200 Original-Received: from larsi by cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2011 12:26:08 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 12 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEUsZLkgU6lel99+t/EU NYyr5PuZ1fkGDU5Ce8rY9/2fRPEtAAACZklEQVQ4jXWTsavbMBDGldLBY/yeobvU5Llr1Ihmq4sh nRtkXrYHxoZsHQzqmLodNDskcP9tvzvbaaG8GxJZv7v7TqeTKgsVdVSzLdI0LWFBlcUyap1HsbOQ DGCvyjRNNCz2W7rlCJ1C8L9MYm+sdkR0iVFi7kBba08AtLkTtYRi1KapiI5E3/I4ZVNpAlGtbUNX xFxQxpkJAEsAnOimLwBcIJJlnIqBOdGw29HFaolJU6WkJmtQ1OoD3SyIyGAf7pY1yFypaoWc1UKA c9Zuid5Y8m1rN5rPCYBUyIWqFiu6+oYJJ1NRcjlPdMUJva9qK/pcLAJcTWK+qqYQlArl1tsJQKUW FUnUev+wmwDrozA+nXPO+y+PvH9r/VQYp3KNp8tjuj5SVSOialleads2/kjDLwa1OVynEIVYtJsG k6+QyVRc8AxIwPMKqdwI6n8i7LD210NT4/AiMkdc6sE0vj6546Su3Bhx8INx7R0glXESsjkOPBE7 f5rFjVRL+jRwy3bVdgYWx/MMnhlsDyPQWvVIDZlPuxzNtOsaQLqIllju4cv23Pdm0wNUUxPZ0bUv Lk16DDCW0+VK2639qMsEl3bm9YanQYZqBBixuOCJ4ftbjHeuzdO5w1CqRd9PE6fGCdVPRbfE4GfF wzyJPHKIef+9SzPM8rsfUfZLVQjp86xMsyLdh4THEK+NnxrrxJ8j+Cr7/KJKISr5vS+yIgtLNe4z AEE9b/clXmv4fH/OHX4LfGUjKOQxl/ugQilWALBjIfshAIh18Alltw/d6C9A1vIhHtNKhfDXS9bj /5wqdOEV8J+9Cv4APtJcLeE1Xp8AAAAASUVORK5CYII= Mail-Copies-To: never X-Now-Playing: Antony and the Johnsons's _Antony and the Johnsons_: "Cripple and the Starfish" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:PrCy60ajWq4OCsnk4en/ebgpHRA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:141058 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > IIUC STARTTLS refers to "opportunistic encryption", which I find > incompatible with passwords since the opportunistic part means that if > the opportunity is absent, you end up sending passwords in the clear. > But maybe you had something else in mind for STARTTLS. You can require that STARTTLS is used, and fail if it's not offered. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/