From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1169: 23.0.60; (substitute-command-keys "\\{...}") adds extra newline Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 19:32:56 +0200 Message-ID: References: <004801c92e4e$9b8018c0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <51B66F0CCAE145448298FC161B6BA8BE@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310065353 19663 80.91.229.12 (7 Jul 2011 19:02:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 19:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 1169@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 07 21:02:25 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QetqD-0007Ve-13 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 21:02:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33816 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QetqB-0003fI-O3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Thu, 07 Jul 2011 17:34:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1169) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2011 17:33:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QesRs-0007U9-7I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 13:33:12 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QesRq-0007Tw-Pi for 1169@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 13:33:11 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1QesRf-0006eQ-HO; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 19:32:59 +0200 In-Reply-To: <51B66F0CCAE145448298FC161B6BA8BE@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 7 Jul 2011 10:25:30 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEUGIAEDGwBaaksQKwYA FAAKJQPWB9ewAAACRklEQVQ4jWVUy5LjIAwU63BHCb5PmZq7bYr7MOYD8DD8/69sSziZfVCJK1bT 3ZJAodRbbPH/Rck5Zra9/oPSyt4XfoQdL/sewvIENl+wHmFZdnzlcwFV4iWHHYElvIcQWksCGGXM f+krwCwE5kaxjr0xdWWo1Gwi5OOuDn2HE53siy+OSMvRnBEHUFWL6Y8yFwVAKdlnir1diAgtkciW GI8lbGzx+0VI5G5HCKK6OiZHtgmAoqiUfXmTjOrKszE2fl1ALiACqMaRcbalhpybFHiECqmwosct TMt7lwp7I/8ZVnHohne1fbbk9rkceDc39vl+ATG1RuYIn7BGu8qHMGJYK6TQq/x2X0ItaMCXAjHW iuMmLvMU+IS1GxYtdQXQ3bYWzp5/yf7ekq1dAV+Obz1EIeAoUkNc0i3XUgK5Ltv1BK+4EOLpqF4X iXhQxCEkZrJItVukS0YPnSSjjQ1Bv/cEczSm5EyscbmSai1ArMWzecDBDCVI9QHc0A+0KQFwYpGE BSCeMwsgDEsKRGXga2bxBoEGAxcPQHKjumCe2epNjHH7LnwPWgUQiSLdBADp+hnn07kMd8m3ow6D 90m6IAC0kp46rXTLxkxQqBfQAIBRMTqcOzqD1qgHcmoRgDXFf1QeSy3GqNmEnZNhowCu6KgwUjtz zk2UpCNVvZtWbpwv6H4lco6eowCgQ+CxOmsIq/9MD3YyH8SYH9Z5e01tbLR1Jl3W/vxvEMrfTk2I jGi9AHlIW3H7ehoxvdckT8zmhCyf1gr8BnTqy9HLLEOlAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: The Smiths's _The Queen Is Dead_: "Bigmouth Strikes Again" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110707:1169@debbugs.gnu.org::hLX2OSguzhG4zIie:000000000000000000000000000000000000000000jaW X-Hashcash: 1:23:110707:drew.adams@oracle.com::aBSIIxHyFepu4Fdy:000000000000000000000000000000000000000081hr X-MailScanner-ID: 1QesRf-0006eQ-HO MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1310664779.6908@PmgHL/629Wm1MpwI8wx8ig X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 13:34:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:48190 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: >> I'd rather get rid of the ^L characters, though. >> Do they have any purpose any more? > > No, no, no. > Yes, of course they serve a purpose - more than one purpose. > See `(emacs) Pages', to start with. I know what they do, but is there any point in actually inserting something as visually distracting as ^L into the buffer people are looking at? If one, for instance, just made the ^L invisible, it'd look nicer, and there would be minimal code change. A better solution would probably to get rid of it altogether and instead insert a `form-feed' text property that the `C-x [' (and friends) command would use instead. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/