From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andy Wingo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs learning curve Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 20:45:05 +0200 Message-ID: References: <10954D02-E217-49F3-8824-757DA34074AB@gmail.com> <83zkxzakr0.fsf@gnu.org> <83pqyva8ms.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1280860958 24742 80.91.229.12 (3 Aug 2010 18:42:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 18:42:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Tom , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 03 20:42:35 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OgMRY-0004u7-R6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Aug 2010 20:42:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55645 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OgMRY-0004TN-Ay for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Aug 2010 14:42:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=53747 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OgMRS-0004TI-NI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Aug 2010 14:42:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OgMRR-0006lo-JV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Aug 2010 14:42:22 -0400 Original-Received: from a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com ([208.72.237.25]:55669 helo=sasl.smtp.pobox.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OgMRP-0006lO-L7; Tue, 03 Aug 2010 14:42:19 -0400 Original-Received: from sasl.smtp.pobox.com (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23742CA170; Tue, 3 Aug 2010 14:42:19 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=sasl; bh=pOZ4BmAko+LJqPguZsLMNRJ0X7I=; b=HemylS 6/FUjZfDeFfaNXaQ3rCPS/zkGS79rqZPwSd+P+nMxHHuXFLINORFuIYHHHtPEUDe 2gbxKHUmwJst9FR6cwKoOokVXe5k4HPTsSPZnjAmT7ryOqzAHVbjvD9jPEXCY2Sd dUFt+a5kAupcV9x/LldHoU6+mK728QCAE54Ck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=pobox.com; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; q=dns; s=sasl; b=fi5Jdc335R3/i5V+TUTBVCP33Gjd1hsH /gyiB+JNrPwfNfMDAFMRkzKu0aX4+bQ+9x0KEOnCN+xgjO3jR1/+lX173ATRAQtg Cph7LtMXP3sJ9WmoUMSz/5Zhmw4TgW30pe2TntWiItbCB5WYVGkxgV11gsXPoG+Y 2cb94VaGpSs= Original-Received: from a-pb-sasl-quonix. (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2258CA16E; Tue, 3 Aug 2010 14:42:15 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from unquote.localdomain (unknown [83.44.189.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 11005CA16A; Tue, 3 Aug 2010 14:42:11 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 02 Aug 2010 11:19:20 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) X-Pobox-Relay-ID: D6697FC8-9F2E-11DF-9801-9056EE7EF46B-02397024!a-pb-sasl-quonix.pobox.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128201 Archived-At: On Mon 02 Aug 2010 11:19, Stefan Monnier writes: > yank=>paste (and kill => cut|copy), and also find new names for > variables, functions, and commands (which will need aliases so both the > new and old names work), that would be a good start. What about the mnemonics? C-y to paste doesn't make much sense. Or would you entertain keybinding changes as well? Sounds like a big can of worms :) Andy -- http://wingolog.org/