From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4562: 23.1; Customize State button problems Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:57:46 +0200 Message-ID: References: <75988BB2DE8C4DE6A16228719FF4E6EF@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310567005 12275 80.91.229.12 (13 Jul 2011 14:23:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:23:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 4562@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 13 16:23:20 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh0LP-00018z-Ua for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:23:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60413 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh0LO-0007rV-Cj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:23:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:36688) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh0CX-0005jB-TY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:14:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh0CT-0001xm-2L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:14:09 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:33378) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh0CS-0001xS-Kf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:14:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh0CR-0002YN-Iv; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:14:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:14:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 4562 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 4562-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B4562.13105664089744 (code B ref 4562); Wed, 13 Jul 2011 14:14:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 4562) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jul 2011 14:13:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh0Bo-0002Wy-Lz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:13:28 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh0Bb-0002WA-Cf for 4562@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:13:18 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh0BN-00017X-Ju; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:12:57 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:41:05 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Now-Playing: Talking Heads's _Fear Of Music_: "Mind" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110713:monnier@iro.umontreal.ca::vt2ULg3ONfj/mlUl:0000000000000000000000000000000000000ferk X-Hashcash: 1:23:110713:drew.adams@oracle.com::ngxIloSrZ3BoDmS1:0000000000000000000000000000000000000001PWyZ X-Hashcash: 1:23:110713:4562@debbugs.gnu.org::4JnaHQ4ifqGnpvqp:00000000000000000000000000000000000000002UjLp X-MailScanner-ID: 1Qh0BN-00017X-Ju MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1311171177.77371@wqbDv2am/J/TsOI/vOfkOg X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:14:03 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:48859 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > So what you have here is simply a bug where Emacs's startup code > modifies default-frame-alist without telling Customize about it. > IIUC it's not easy to fix it, because some of those changes are things > which shoujldn't be saved in the Custom version of default-frame-alist > (they are dynamically set at startup depending on your window-system > and/or command-line args). I guess basically what it means is that > default-frame-alist shouldn't be a defcustom becaude we don't know how > to let Custom handle it correctly. So should we just change `default-frame-alist' to a `defvar'? I can't even find the custom definition of this variable. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/