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From: Benjamin Riefenstahl <b.riefenstahl@turtle-trading.net>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: dashes and non-breaking spaces
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 18:30:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3651yy4zs.fsf@seneca.benny.turtle-trading.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <shmzvak8kw.fsf@tux.gnu.franken.de> (Karl Eichwalder's message of "Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:36:47 +0100")

Hi Karl,


> Benjamin Riefenstahl <b.riefenstahl@turtle-trading.net> writes:
>> Those are not "escapes" strictly speaking.  If you decode UTF-8 as
>> cp1252 or latin-1 you just get sequences of unusual non-ASCII
>> characters.

Karl Eichwalder writes:
> The point is that Emacs treats them as escapes...

What does "escape" mean here?  There are no escapes of any kind in
latin-1 in the non-ASCII region, as I understand it.  If this is just
another term for "control character", the only valid control
character, if you want to call it that, is \u00A0, NBSP (see subject).

In email, if there are characters in a latin-1 text from the reserved
C1 region (\u0080-\u009F), that is just an indication that it's not
actually latin-1, but that windows-1252 (cp1252) is used.  That
confusion is extremely common.

If there are byte sequences in there that are valid in UTF-8, that
means that it *is* UTF-8 (with a very high degree of certainty).

> (And as I said, those messages are broken; only a part (the quoted
> text) is "wrong".)

Well, that could mean that the sender has seen it in this form and
wants you to see it this way.  Or it can mean that the sender was too
lazy to correct it.

If you wanted to fix it in Emacs, you'd have to treat each quoted
block separately.  The algorithm that I gave would still be
reasonable.


benny

  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-15 17:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-12-28 13:21 dashes and non-breaking spaces Paul Pogonyshev
2004-12-29 21:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-02 15:24   ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-01-04 20:53   ` Karl Eichwalder
2005-01-05  5:46     ` Juri Linkov
2005-01-06  4:53       ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-12  2:02         ` Juri Linkov
2005-01-12  4:41           ` Miles Bader
2005-01-12  6:39             ` Karl Eichwalder
2005-01-12 20:58               ` Miles Bader
2005-01-12 21:58                 ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-12 22:07                   ` Miles Bader
2005-01-12 22:30                     ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-13  9:29                       ` David Kastrup
2005-01-13 10:37                         ` Miles Bader
2005-01-14 11:33                           ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-13 20:29               ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-13 21:11                 ` Karl Eichwalder
2005-01-13 21:24                   ` Stefan Monnier
2005-01-13 21:59                     ` Karl Eichwalder
2005-01-15  0:12                   ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-15  6:47                     ` Karl Eichwalder
2005-01-15 14:05                       ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2005-01-15 15:36                         ` Karl Eichwalder
2005-01-15 17:30                           ` Benjamin Riefenstahl [this message]
2005-01-13 21:39                 ` Paul Pogonyshev
2005-01-15  0:12                   ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-07 13:59   ` Kim F. Storm
2005-01-07 23:04     ` Richard Stallman
2005-01-09  2:17       ` Kim F. Storm
2005-01-03  4:31 ` Richard Stallman

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