From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: scroll-conservatively default Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 09:28:57 +0000 Message-ID: References: <200712020048.lB20mS9R002812@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> <200712032120.lB3LKwJ1003309@oogie-boogie.ics.uci.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196760673 32620 80.91.229.12 (4 Dec 2007 09:31:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 09:31:13 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 04 10:31:23 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IzU7e-0002fJ-5d for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 10:31:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzU7N-00013G-IU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 04:31:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IzU7F-0000zN-Dx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 04:30:57 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IzU7D-0000xy-6Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 04:30:56 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IzU7C-0000xj-TC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 04:30:54 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IzU7C-0002yB-PE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 04:30:55 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IzU6z-0002bY-Ke for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 09:30:41 +0000 Original-Received: from sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.223.202]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 09:30:41 +0000 Original-Received: from sdl.web by sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 04 Dec 2007 09:30:41 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAG1BMVEUAAAA9Cgm3Hx1WWFWA gn+WmJWsrqv4+vcCAwCRl2MkAAAAAXRSTlMAQObYZgAAAAFiS0dEAIgFHUgAAAAJcEhZcwAAAYoA AAGKATOXMFgAAAAHdElNRQfXAQwDNR+ZJmElAAABIklEQVQoz22SPW+DQAyGWUq65qasd9PNUSX4 AZHK2C1rJy5jpDS4IwRVup9dn7GNafpKIPPgzztXFSujqq1eM2n8h22oMkvxI/i9C97kRfMRUN55 dS3BrsAwBXUtMLAO4lryh8kTjOxKpQNniNxAgZOEe4bZwsDTFhKdqZRLNII4OQNHhEuq/RMkm6Cj TnnEA/fk0BorcYn5qA3oaeAxbaBOLrX+9G48NZ2Fzc2tzDM8Q+tMypEOqYHh8mAWaaK3U/cDMOT5 aMZMABgPXc7zPMs1A8DXO756GFJ/4fMEq47hTsAdn5avoxZ4ywl0c2w4Flu2Ybeyb3S+EqxX2DYA H8veJGEDTnHnrXvRaPyt+2kSfK6rfBZ2tUtfP/mR+pR6sX8BUZ/cDV7tvkoAAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.130000 Emacs/23.0.50 (20071101) Fedora 8 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:FhcmFcNlWfiF2wGpg/T9iVKsbQw= X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84643 Archived-At: On 2007-12-04 04:13 +0000, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Emacs should try to be consistent with the general accepted behavior >> of other applications. And only try to be different after very >> careful consideration. > > This would be a valid argument if we were discussing some new behavior > that didn't exist before. But this particular behavior (scrolling > when point goes outside the visible portion of the buffer) was in > Emacs since day one, many years ago, when practically speaking there > were no "other applications" to be compatible with. So I don't see > how this argument applies here. This mentality might eventually put Emacs to no more. A long time ago human live on eating leafs, however we have evolved. -- .: Leo :. [ sdl.web AT gmail.com ] .: [ GPG Key: 9283AA3F ] :. Use the best OS -- http://www.fedoraproject.org/