From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: joakim@verona.se Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: heisenbugs 1 joakim 0 Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 15:39:07 +0200 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1312292365 4960 80.91.229.12 (2 Aug 2011 13:39:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 13:39:25 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 02 15:39:21 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QoFBp-0005Od-4E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 15:39:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60869 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QoFBo-00074S-OY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 09:39:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:35881) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QoFBm-00074M-Bf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 09:39:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QoFBl-0006CS-Bt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 09:39:18 -0400 Original-Received: from batman.blixtvik.net ([87.96.254.3]:38904) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QoFBl-0006BK-6D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2011 09:39:17 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (139-210-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se [87.96.210.139]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by batman.blixtvik.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3EFF7F89CB for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2011 15:39:08 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 87.96.254.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:142693 Archived-At: Hello, Currently Emacs heisenbugs are having a field day in my computer. I'd like to request some assistance in evening the score if possible. These are heisenbugs and furthermore in my own xwidget branch, so if all this sounds like useless whining, please just disregard. A guy needs to went now and then. - The recent bidi change seemed to introduce some visual artifacts sometimes during scrolling. Sometimes the screen gets scrolled in small rectangular regions but not all areas. It could be my branch code but I dont think so, because my code is the bestest. It could also be GTK3 + Bidi. This heisenbug is endurable because I can make the display right by requesting a redraw. - Gnus usualy hangs for me with a flaky network but its much worse recently with the gnutls stuff. Sometimes I get a message like: "gnutls.c [0] (Emacs) fatal error: The specified reason has been invalidated for some reason." - I run Emacs in gdb all the time but it doesn't really help recently. Emacs hangs so hard gdb can't interrupt. Sometimes I can at least get a backtrace by sending a SIGHUP signal. Usualy the hang is in accept_process_output initiated from Gnus. - bzr currently hangs, at the savannah end(Okay, I just like to whine a bit) - Hey, Martins new window code at least doesn't give me troubles! - Since Emacs now crashes/hangs many times a day, desktop mode helps me a lot. Can I make it save the state more often? -- Joakim Verona