From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chris Hall Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Emacs 21.2, smtpmail, and vm Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 01:39:28 GMT Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1044236427 1379 80.91.224.249 (3 Feb 2003 01:40:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 01:40:27 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18fVax-0000Ly-00 for ; Mon, 03 Feb 2003 02:40:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18fVbG-0008Hf-0A for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Feb 2003 20:40:42 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!west.cox.net!cox.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller.gnilink.net!nwrddc01.gnilink.net.POSTED!1f18d88b!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 57 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.65.55.48 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net Original-X-Trace: nwrddc01.gnilink.net 1044236368 4.65.55.48 (Sun, 02 Feb 2003 20:39:28 EST) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 20:39:28 EST Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:109708 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:6221 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:6221 I'm baaaack! Well, after many more hours futzin' around with smtpmail and vm in my beeeyoootiful new Emacs 21.2, I *still* can't get it work, but I do have some feedback on the recent CVS version of smtpmail, if anyone is interested. BTW, 1) I am *not* what anyone would proficient in elisp, but I do have a some degree of familiarity with it, 2) I'm a bit curious as to why elisp CVS files don't contain their version - I got the most recent version of sendmail and smtpmail 3 or 4 nights ago. Situation : my ISP requires AUTH LOGIN PLAIN. I use VM as my mail reader. I can read my mail no problem. Sending it though . . . If I set smtpmail-auth-credentials as specified in the smtpmail preface comments, '("smtp hostname" 25 "username" "passord")' smtpmail-try-auth-methods won't find *any* credentials, and immediately sends 'MAIL FROM:' to my ISP, which then says 'authorization required', and closes the connection. If I set credentials to a .netrc file (!) (after of course returning to CVS, getting a copy of netrc.el and putting it in my load-path), I get prompted for a password, even though it is already in .netrc, and authentication proceeds - the smtp trace buffer shows the base64 exchange between vm and my ISP. smtpmail then blows off with an argument mismatch somewhere in smtpmail-try-auth-methods : 'smtpmail-try-auth-methods: Wrong type argument : stringp, nil'. So close! FWIW, I commented out the last step in smtpmail-try-auth-methods (save the password) and still got the same error. My friends are irritated with me - I have spent so much time on this (well, mail systems and RFCs in general too, to be honest), that I have been neglecting our server, so I'll try again maybe in a week or two. (They don't seem to find mail systems nearly as interesting as I have lately.) Or not: I can successfully mail to our server using vm/smtpmail (over port-forwarded ssh, of course!), and I think I'll set up our Postfix to relay appropriate mail to my ISP. And maybe have my ISP forward my mail to our server. And Simon, if you read this, I tried the patched version from your website: it didn't seem to support AUTH LOGIN, only AUTH CRAM-MD5, though the CVS version I'm using now does. -- "No nation can preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare." -- James Madison, Secretary of State to Mr. Jefferson, and 4th President "My confidence is that there will for a long time be virtue and good sense enough in our countrymen to correct abuses." --Thomas Jefferson to Edward Rutledge, 1788. ME 7:81