From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Possible change to startup.el Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 14:59:08 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1112275304 19343 80.91.229.2 (31 Mar 2005 13:21:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:21:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 31 15:21:39 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DGzbU-0003sm-Ss for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 15:20:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DGzsC-0000an-En for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:38:12 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DGzmE-0005eD-Ml for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:32:03 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DGzhg-0003xN-0u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:27:25 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DGzhd-0003tF-UE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:27:18 -0500 Original-Received: from [212.88.64.25] (helo=mail-relay.sonofon.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DGzMS-000796-Ak for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:05:25 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 96936 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2005 12:58:43 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk) (213.83.150.2) by 0 with SMTP; 31 Mar 2005 12:58:43 -0000 Original-To: rms@gnu.org, ttn@glug.org In-Reply-To: (Thien-Thi Nguyen's message of "Thu, 31 Mar 2005 14:01:20 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35423 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35423 Richard Stallman writes: > > I recently suggested patches to report menu bindings using the real > > menu item texts rather than the internal names, like this: > > > File=>Print=>Print With Faces > > I don't think it is much of an improvement. In any case, > it would have to be a very important improvement to be > installable now. > > For now, please let's focus on fixing bugs, > not on small improvements. Thien-Thi Nguyen writes: > EN-TITLE tab EN-BLURB > > the patched presentation format is: > > (if data-directory is not availble) > EN-TITLE tab EN-BLURB > > (if filename resolved from consulting language env is "TUTORIAL") > EN-TITLE tab LIST-OF-AVAILABLE-TUTORIALS > > (otherwise) > TITLE tab (EN-TITLE) LIST-OF-AVAILABLE-TUTORIALS > > what do you propose for the presentation format, based on these > conditions and elements? Is this really a _very important improvement_? Why is this _more important_ than reporting sensible menu bindings? -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk