From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 50, Issue 7 Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 16:35:11 +0100 Message-ID: References: <459BB893.9010106@gnu.org> <8764bns96l.fsf@cs.cmu.edu> <459CE689.3020006@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1168270529 23821 80.91.229.12 (8 Jan 2007 15:35:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 15:35:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jasonr@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, md5i@cs.cmu.edu, eliz@gnu.org, jan.h.d@swipnet.se Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 08 16:35:25 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1H3wWw-0003ex-U8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2007 16:35:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H3wWw-0000gz-BP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2007 10:35:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1H3wWj-0000eM-3j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2007 10:35:09 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1H3wWi-0000cs-Ff for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2007 10:35:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H3wWi-0000cc-AU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jan 2007 10:35:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.41.46.237] (helo=pfepc.post.tele.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H3wWa-0000kH-3p; Mon, 08 Jan 2007 10:35:00 -0500 Original-Received: from kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk (unknown [80.165.4.124]) by pfepc.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 423F88A007E; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 16:34:58 +0100 (CET) Original-To: Stefan Monnier In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun\, 07 Jan 2007 18\:56\:19 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:64980 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > a historical accident. The current text suggests it was done deliberately: Many key combinations (known as ``keyboard shortcuts'') that have conventional uses in MS-Windows programs conflict with traditional Emacs commands. This conflict arose because the designers of the CUA interface implemented by MS-Windows did not try to avoid conflict with Emacs. The second sentense is superfluous at best. The text continues: Examples of conflicts include @kbd{C-c}, @kbd{C-x}, @kbd{C-z}, @kbd{C-a}, and @kbd{W-@key{SPC}}. You can redefine some of them with meanings more like the MS-Windows meanings by enabling CUA Mode (@pxref{CUA Bindings}). As I've tried to say, the CUA (or rather C-[zxcv]) bindings are no longer MS-Windows specific ... the text could just as well have said GNOME [in a non-MS-DOG context]. Also the text is overly cryptic ... why not just say: You can resolve these conflicts by enabling CUA Mode. -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk