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From: joakim@verona.se
To: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: more url-utils?
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 23:58:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m339ke9ujs.fsf@verona.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87hb8u4a5x.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Mon, 16 May 2011 16:18:02 -0500")

Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com> writes:

> On Mon, 16 May 2011 23:07:49 +0200 joakim@verona.se wrote: 
>
> j> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>>>>>> After looking at many examples in Emacs, I can't find or think of any
>>>>>> need for the headers *as text* in the code I've seen.  I would:
> SM> That sounds right.
>>>> ...so can I go ahead with my proposal or would you rather be
>>>> conservative and keep the old behavior, making API users turn off
>>>> headers explicitly?
>>> 
>>> There are 3 parts.
>>> - removal of header text.
>>> - backward compatibility.
>>> - providing header info in a non-textual format.
>>> 
>>> All three are important.
>
> j> Teds proposal addresses all three concerns right?
> j> - The new API does what coders expect, no information is lost
> j> - the old api is retained but marked obsolete
> j> - headers are accessible in alist format
>
> j> Its more work but Teds volunteered to do it. Great!
>
> I don't think marking the old API obsolete will preserve backwards
> compatibility.  But if Stefan thinks so, I'll do it according to my
> proposal.  Otherwise he'll have to decide what the API will be.
>
> I don't mind the extra work if it improves Emacs.  Right now using
> url-*.el to just get some data is pretty painful compared to Perl's LWP,
> for instance.

True. We had a little inhouse "competition" comparing implementations of
reading and parsing an internal REST datasource. My Emacs implementation
was pretty lean compared with Android/Iphone implementations, but the
Clojure implementation was five lines of code. Perls would be 5
characters I presume :)

>
> Ted
>

-- 
Joakim Verona



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-16 21:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-14 10:32 more url-utils? joakim
2011-05-14 11:21 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-14 11:42   ` joakim
2011-05-15  1:59     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-14 20:42   ` Dimitri Fontaine
2011-05-15 14:26   ` Jason Rumney
2011-05-16 18:25     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-16 19:03       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-16 19:17         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-16 19:22           ` Lennart Borgman
2011-05-16 19:32             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-16 19:33               ` Lennart Borgman
2011-05-16 19:55                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-16 19:52               ` Julien Danjou
2011-05-16 20:18                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-17  3:04                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-17  8:13                   ` Julien Danjou
2011-05-16 19:53           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-16 21:07             ` joakim
2011-05-16 21:18               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-16 21:21                 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-05-16 21:58                 ` joakim [this message]
2011-05-17 11:40             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-17 13:34               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-14 13:21 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-16 13:15   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-16 15:19     ` Tom Tromey
2011-05-16 15:45       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-16 17:04       ` joakim
2011-05-16 17:17         ` Lennart Borgman
2011-05-16 17:30         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-16 18:39         ` Julien Danjou
2011-05-15 13:34 ` Chong Yidong
2011-05-17 22:26   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-18  0:11     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-18  2:14       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-18 12:16         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-18 13:44           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-18 14:09             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-18 14:43               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-18 22:05                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-19  1:57                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-19  2:28                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-19 10:28                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-19 11:53                         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-19 12:43                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-19 13:28                             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-19 13:35                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-30 17:31                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-30 19:09                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-30 19:38                                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-30 22:17                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-30 23:11                                       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31  1:26                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-31 10:15                                           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-31 12:45                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-31 18:38                                               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-05-19 14:11                             ` joakim
2011-05-19 14:40                               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-19 13:46                   ` ELisp futures and continuations/coroutines (was: more url-utils?) Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-19 14:15                     ` ELisp futures and continuations/coroutines Stefan Monnier
2011-05-19 14:16                     ` joakim
2011-05-19 15:24                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-19 15:09                     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-05-19 15:31                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-19 16:40                         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-05-19 23:48                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-20  1:23                             ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-05-20  4:18                               ` Mohsen BANAN
2011-05-20 15:30                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-20 15:29                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-22 13:17                                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-05-23 14:24                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-23 14:59                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-23 15:10                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-23 15:42                                         ` SAKURAI Masashi
2011-05-25  2:07                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-26  0:23                                             ` SAKURAI Masashi
2011-06-03 13:59                                             ` SAKURAI Masashi
2011-06-03 16:06                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-04  6:21                                                 ` SAKURAI Masashi
2011-06-29  5:31                                                 ` SAKURAI Masashi
2011-06-29 12:01                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-29 17:33                                                     ` SAKURAI Masashi
2011-06-29 16:09                                                   ` Chong Yidong
2011-05-23 15:45                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-25  2:02                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-31 10:53                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-31 16:55                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-19 17:03                     ` ELisp futures and continuations/coroutines (was: more url-utils?) SAKURAI Masashi
2011-05-19 22:51                       ` ELisp futures and continuations/coroutines Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-20 15:49                         ` SAKURAI Masashi
2011-05-25  2:17                           ` Ted Zlatanov

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