From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: describe-bindings: ^L, bad order, naming Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:18:16 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4373BDF2.90106@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1131705255 20907 80.91.229.2 (11 Nov 2005 10:34:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 11 11:34:06 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EaWC2-0004Zp-S6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:31:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EaVkb-0006u4-Tu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 05:03:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EaV4B-0008Og-2b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 04:19:28 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EaV43-0008N4-Jw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 04:19:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EaV41-0008MR-9r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 04:19:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.41.46.237] (helo=pfepc.post.tele.dk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EaV3z-00033L-SW; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 04:19:16 -0500 Original-Received: from kfs-l.imdomain.dk.cua.dk (unknown [80.165.4.124]) by pfepc.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id 9351F26288B; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:19:12 +0100 (CET) Original-To: snogglethorpe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: (Miles Bader's message of "Fri, 11 Nov 2005 11:55:00 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:45736 Archived-At: Miles Bader writes: > 2005/11/11, Robert J. Chassell : >> I would go for just "Keyboard Shortcuts". >> >> But that is inaccurate! They are certainly not shortcuts! You have >> to type them! Perhaps compared to something you type, voice >> recognition would provide `shortcuts', until voice recognition became >> common. > > I presume the use of "shortcut" in other programs reflects the notion > that the menu-item is the "primary" method of invocation, and that any > keybindings are for the use of experts. Well I don't think this is silly. In emacs a "keyboard shortcut" could reflect the notion that without it, you would have to use M-x and spell out the full command name. E.g. C-x 4 C-f is a shortcut for M-x find-file-other-window RET. > A phrase like "Keyboard Commands" might be more familar than > "bindings", without the objectional implication of "shortcuts". IMO, if we don't like "shortcut", we should stick to the term we already use (bindings) rather than invent yet another term. -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk