From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: joakim@verona.se Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Integrating package.el Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:00:39 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87k4w5lbyb.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87zl50jv52.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d41rn3wt.fsf_-_@hagelb.org> <87k4vxiwlj.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878wcdjg9r.fsf@hagelb.org> <87637gh73j.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87637b96pc.fsf@hagelb.org> <87wrzr6ugo.fsf@hagelb.org> <87ocl242jc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d41ihx9g.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1263139282 12693 80.91.229.12 (10 Jan 2010 16:01:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 16:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, tzz@lifelogs.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, elpa@tromey.com, Phil Hagelberg , "Stephen J. Turnbull" , monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 10 17:01:14 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NU0E6-0005ek-09 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:01:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43205 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NU0E6-0004LX-GR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 11:01:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NU0Dl-0004C0-8J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 11:00:53 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NU0Dg-00049o-GR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 11:00:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43548 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NU0Dg-00049k-6r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 11:00:48 -0500 Original-Received: from iwfs.imcode.com ([82.115.149.64]:47707 helo=gate.verona.se) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NU0Dd-0000D1-Ow; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 11:00:46 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:1005@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gate.verona.se (8.13.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id o0AG0dmC003616; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:00:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87d41ihx9g.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:04:11 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:119785 Archived-At: Chong Yidong writes: > "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > >> Richard Stallman writes: >> > Naturally, it's up to whoever manually curates the index to ensure the >> > package follows the guidelines for that archive. For the FSF archive(s) >> > it would mean ensuring copyright assignment is in place; for folks who >> > want to maintain their own archives it would probably be something >> > simpler like making sure it's licensed as free software. >> > >> > I am worried that this will lead to a problem. >> > Namely, there may be increasing numbers of packages >> > that we can't get adequate papers for and can't put into Emacs. >> >> This is a problem as opposed to increasing numbers of packages that >> are available only to their authors and you can't put into Emacs? At >> least this way you'll have a contact address for authors. > > No, it's a valid concern. It's hard work hunting down papers and > integrating packages. We must make sure a package system does not tempt > us to just "dump and forget". A well made package system might also conceivably make it easier to acquire papers right? For instance, it might be more prestigious to have ones package in the FSF repos. Also, digital signatures might be legally binding at some point. (I think they are in Swedenalready, we have a national system for it anyway) > -- Joakim Verona