From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Thomas Fitzsimmons Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: GNU Emacs distribution (was: My perspective as a mid-level user on pros/cons of different editors) Date: Wed, 20 May 2020 12:38:15 -0400 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="91426"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Rudi C , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 20 18:39:20 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jbRkW-000NgR-QR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 18:39:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38398 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbRkV-0002gX-Pg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 12:39:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48198) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbRjX-00006U-4Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 12:38:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qk1-x729.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::729]:38839) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jbRjV-0002w0-UE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 May 2020 12:38:18 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-qk1-x729.google.com with SMTP id f189so4200895qkd.5 for ; Wed, 20 May 2020 09:38:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fitzsim-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=cr15j6OQyUAZnl/Jm0ERmMb/w7X2w4rfm3OLjgdPepw=; b=OD0Y5Ff6EnY3GtCvLqSPa/G8JUHOQ88/ahhYDx8I1JjAwrAzFFdaS+Xs1WuXZ7rqmC 5RxoG2Q2qK4mua5JdsBe6SXFh3gEdlCRq+BcKorH6xUkzfdAQtJ6I6u4S2sMADnH4qCJ 8emwUryCcOUCtQRDQF5J38mQw5wdTkBMXuBLRkXXRvR7o8c9EDkM6z+8BxsMVU5X3tQH y8oIpV2fzLvEBGqh91LkSuradkg7zBmWkKSdEMpHcqFqcj7EtzERx/NUApOyCFYR/8C+ w93isb9IZswI0baTu2WksXnTcg+c2YV65Vw9ij+DiNJURPcsMw7402yxLn3KoWzASj/c UFag== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=cr15j6OQyUAZnl/Jm0ERmMb/w7X2w4rfm3OLjgdPepw=; b=QPrF5j1pr8V/GgjRA3lw/0XKsBbXdpJfz1kVnDT4GH89W3p6ZVauFmAN1p6kAMTS6L r6JxJA19mbnjGJaY1VtugnJ7OjHCk90wvKFFd6TLkI6r6J4E+9eWRymiFpv1Mb4Wcf09 Mi/jgKr8XKxCBTieWK4FX6H39IYAEdUTGCYUNpnUU8ZmboNymk18Wh5aHUASbk2UtzDC 5dVSjMiFc0EgqBUKxHCYU7cCxdnJueall4zjpaeCyyK/l77yBldJ+GVALySVTmpAzzQD LlYNH3AA8xu4+MnIniduupHrq8E1HEzvVW9xn6tvENBVfK/r4dfjCkTK5M7ibH7eZO8u y3Zw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532/3jAFCmm9cDLRxjxryXq65q7WFZCRwQrb9S6duHx1ZmbpQ4mx np+4TvjbO345dqR4KVQGwoy9lf9d+QHDk7QS X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxsK/6Kaal2mJcDLqi3w2KraKyINUQln7GkULMOynq8gvv/GQZKjmbniK9m6l7WM8JcrIthuw== X-Received: by 2002:a37:7143:: with SMTP id m64mr6051347qkc.215.1589992696586; Wed, 20 May 2020 09:38:16 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain (69-165-165-189.dsl.teksavvy.com. [69.165.165.189]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n31sm3114451qtc.36.2020.05.20.09.38.15 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 20 May 2020 09:38:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 20 May 2020 08:25:01 -0400") Received-SPF: none client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::729; envelope-from=fitzsim@fitzsim.org; helo=mail-qk1-x729.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251074 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> ## Spacemacs > [...] >> ## Doom Emacs > > Your comments remind me, that I think we (the "vanilla/core Emacs > community") should try and get more involved in this "Emacs > distribution" business. Yes, GNU Emacs World should be a vanilla/core community run Emacs distribution that "vendors" the Free world. Portacle [1] is an interesting attempt in a similar direction, with a focus on Common Lisp. Thomas 1. https://portacle.github.io/