From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrey Lisin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Why do we need a number of different terminal modes in Emacs? Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2015 17:10:55 +0600 Message-ID: References: <87sieprk77.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1422789077 14056 80.91.229.3 (1 Feb 2015 11:11:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 11:11:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 01 12:11:16 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YHsQt-0001h5-SB for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2015 12:11:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50061 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YHsQt-0006be-4C for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2015 06:11:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35264) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YHsQh-0006bZ-Uz for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2015 06:11:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YHsQd-0003HG-3G for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2015 06:11:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-la0-x22b.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::22b]:48248) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YHsQc-0003H2-Rn for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Feb 2015 06:10:59 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-la0-f43.google.com with SMTP id q1so33049242lam.2 for ; Sun, 01 Feb 2015 03:10:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=oQdm+n1dx75YNEd2XxezaotTQLe6LgrhWB4tjCOTQ+g=; b=OhBg452MKtbRlD0lWesqZ9LViYyeyAD5lXcDd85cExqY4KbNwajIORRWEsVkBCsRX4 iOYoxob7B92fjJ1QAETGcMX1+BizOdzh4FObr4lvIMBcXlVrGNLUFut4hqVaU7zCV/4w rtjjgamS1qKBgK+eJAP+sDTIYF1hgLkt2MBDK6syhr3QBaTU7xqFJpqw20Bfw4psBrj+ XyUoxWWNi9LjBh/9nMTkCRaf5xJtfPYLVozWXS8Y5XkCuAhLq6IcJlD/3UAxa16Ri4jL GF/kSMNbudBJMJwiAv1+z4rehIiht7DA3mFbRjicKd/lClyxNivR8xQqEl+11wsMeUPb gXAA== X-Received: by 10.152.26.133 with SMTP id l5mr14584128lag.21.1422789058013; Sun, 01 Feb 2015 03:10:58 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Andreys-MacBook-Pro.local (pppoe91.net137-6.omkc.ru. [94.137.6.91]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id v5sm3760507lby.9.2015.02.01.03.10.57 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 01 Feb 2015 03:10:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87sieprk77.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> (Pascal J. Bourguignon's message of "Sun, 01 Feb 2015 11:37:48 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (darwin) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22b X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:102416 Archived-At: It's perfectly fine to have different things for different tasks. The question is what is the *real* reason to have a few different terminal modes? And it has nothing to do with standards. Right now, for example, I use shell for tasks on my local machine, but I need to run term each time I want SSH somewhere. And if you want me to write "one terminal to rule them all", I'd rather fix this strange shell or eshell behavior. But it's very strange nobody did it before. I think there could be some good reasons for that. Am I the only person find it weird? "Pascal J. Bourguignon" writes: > http://xkcd.com/927/ > > But if you feel like you'll be able to write one terminal to rule them > all, one terminal to find them, one terminal to bring them all and in > the darkness bind them, then go ahead!