From: Random832 <random832@fastmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: OS X: Change default key bindings of CMD and ALT
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2016 04:58:50 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2ziwppqn9.fsf@fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: loom.20160101T095057-402@post.gmane.org
Adrian Robert <Adrian.B.Robert@gmail.com> writes:
> These are good points. Of course, the problem is whichever key you choose
> to be meta, you are giving up some OS defaults; it is just a question of
> which ones are more important for how many users. But it would also be
> good to take a parallel approach to Emacs on other platforms. Currently
> under X or Windows, the Alt/Opt key goes to meta under Emacs, despite
> having other uses in the OS.
I think you've got to take a whole picture view of this. With a
European keyboard layout selected in X, the right Alt key (or
whichever key, since this is customizable with xkb) won't send
"Alt", but instead will be "ISO_Level3_Shift" or "Mode_Switch".
So Emacs doesn't have to do any special handling to get the
desired behavior. Meanwhile, on Windows, the right alt key on a
European keyboard layout sends a synthetic "Left Ctrl, Right
Alt" modifier combination that can be detected and can and
should be acted on specially.
> But IIRC it is only done on one side, so the
> Alt key on the other is still available for character selection use. (And
> maybe menu shortcut use in Windows?)
>
> Would this be implementable in either the NS or Mac ports? And if so would
> it allow natural / acceptable use by European users?
This is not what is done now, but it can certainly easily be
implemented. This is how I set up my own configuration, with
(setq ns-right-alternate-modifier 'none) - the current default
is 'left, which makes it defer to ns-alternate-modifier (which
is 'meta)
I am not European, but I think it would probably be natural for
European users because this is how MS Windows and I _think_ most
Linux distributions are set up by default, and the right alt key
alone is labeled AltGr on PC keyboards.
I was incidentally a bit confused by the original post calling
the desired functionality "compose" - this feature is not
compose, it's third level shift.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-01-01 9:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-31 6:40 OS X: Change default key bindings of CMD and ALT Anders Lindgren
2015-12-31 7:31 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-31 8:17 ` Adrian.B.Robert
2015-12-31 16:02 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-01 1:40 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2016-01-01 8:50 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2016-01-01 10:28 ` Anders Lindgren
2016-01-02 3:00 ` Random832
2016-01-02 6:02 ` Anders Lindgren
2016-01-02 6:17 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-02 7:18 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-01-02 17:06 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-02 8:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-02 9:07 ` Random832
2016-01-03 7:27 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-01-01 8:57 ` Adrian Robert
2016-01-01 9:58 ` Random832 [this message]
2016-01-01 10:11 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-12-31 13:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
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