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From: John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com>
To: Edward John Steere <edward.steere@gmail.com>
Cc: David Engster <deng@randomsample.de>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
	Bastien Guerry <bzg@gnu.org>,
	emacs-org list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
	Kaushal Modi <kaushal.modi@gmail.com>,
	Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch?
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2017 21:01:49 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2zii4av76.fsf@newartisans.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87efzk2xg8.fsf@gmail.com> (Edward John Steere's message of "Mon,  30 Jan 2017 20:51:19 +0200")

>>>>> "EJS" == Edward John Steere <edward.steere@gmail.com> writes:

EJS> What I think that we shouldn't lose sight of (if I may suggest it): is
EJS> that packaging CEDET, Org Mode and other packages like them in a process
EJS> which integrates them only when producing the tarball would serve to
EJS> simplify things for everyone. Emacs core wouldn't be able to depend on
EJS> packages which are more relevant to the users (and package developers) of
EJS> Emacs, but these packages would still there like they always have been
EJS> when one downloads binary Emacs.

This is the very point I was hoping to make, thanks Edward. If it can simplify
things for everyone, great; if it really will only complicate things, not so
great.

Many software projects have package ecosystems surrounding them that deal with
similar issues, and I can't, off-hand, think of cases where the answer was
"let's move some of those packages into core development to ease ___". This is
why I find it a bit surprising that some feel so strongly about keeping these
large, external packages in core.

-- 
John Wiegley                  GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F
http://newartisans.com                          60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2



  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-03  2:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-25 16:39 Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? Kaushal Modi
2017-01-25 16:54 ` Rasmus
2017-01-25 20:31   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-26 13:45     ` Rasmus
2017-01-26 14:21       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-26 15:01         ` Kaushal Modi
2017-01-26 15:39           ` Kyle Meyer
2017-01-26 16:01             ` Kaushal Modi
2017-01-26 16:36               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-01-29 19:06                 ` John Wiegley
2017-01-26  6:19   ` Kyle Meyer
2017-01-26  8:26   ` Michael Albinus
2017-01-29 19:15 ` John Wiegley
2017-01-30  1:07   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-30  7:47   ` David Engster
2017-01-30 15:59     ` John Wiegley
2017-01-30 18:51       ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-03  2:01         ` John Wiegley [this message]
2017-02-04 16:30           ` David Engster
2017-01-30 19:28       ` David Engster
2017-01-30 21:52         ` John Wiegley
2017-01-31 14:22           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 15:08             ` John Wiegley
2017-01-31 15:15               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 15:31                 ` David Engster
2017-01-31 15:33                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 21:55             ` Stephen Leake
2017-02-01 15:09               ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-01 18:48               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-01-31 23:19             ` Aaron Ecay
2017-02-01 18:51               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-01 23:21                 ` Phillip Lord
2017-02-02 14:37                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-31 15:45           ` David Engster
2017-02-02  2:56             ` John Wiegley
2017-02-02 12:10               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-02 14:09                 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-02 14:34                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2017-02-02 14:57                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-02 14:23                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-02 17:32                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 17:47                   ` David Engster
2017-02-02 20:37                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 20:57                       ` David Engster
2017-02-02 21:13                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-02 14:50               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03  1:55                 ` Using CEDET modules from Emacs core John Wiegley
2017-02-03  4:24                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-05  7:40                     ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-12  2:15                     ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12  3:33                       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-12 16:00                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2017-02-14 22:51                           ` Eric Ludlam
2017-02-14 23:45                             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-15  1:15                               ` Eric Ludlam
2017-02-02 16:30               ` Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? David Engster
2017-02-02 18:17                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03  1:54                 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-03  4:41                   ` Stefan Monnier
2017-02-03 16:05                   ` David Engster
2017-02-05  9:03                     ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-05 15:50                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-05 16:59                       ` David Engster
2017-02-05 20:36                         ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-06 22:03                           ` David Engster
2017-02-07 17:18                             ` Edward John Steere
2017-02-12  2:46                     ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12 15:34                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-12 22:22                         ` Stephen Leake
2017-02-12 23:13                           ` John Wiegley
2017-02-13 19:35                             ` Stephen Leake
2017-02-13 19:48                               ` [OT] What's wrong with Gnus citations? Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-13 20:57                                 ` John Wiegley
2017-02-14  3:26                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-02-14 14:59                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-02-13 20:56                               ` Sync up the org in emacs master to org maint branch? John Wiegley
2017-02-12 23:33                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-01-31 14:42         ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]   ` <WM!417e241b26f9ffab5c4a5fb52e8ccb8dd78efd1b242df281924e708a87f0c07486b9d0c1eee555fb39c40d66f9d657b3!@mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk>
2017-02-06 10:00     ` [O] " Phillip Lord
2017-02-06 10:00       ` Phillip Lord
2017-02-12  2:22       ` John Wiegley
2017-02-12  2:22         ` John Wiegley

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