From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Date: Sun, 06 May 2012 22:21:32 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: References: <871umzrvfw.fsf@gmail.com> <87wr4rqg6g.fsf@gmail.com> <83d36j59gv.fsf@gnu.org> <87r4uz58e3.fsf@sec.modprobe.de> <83aa1n57p4.fsf@gnu.org> <5D17181ED92C4552AE8D4404DD035CA0@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1336357320 25851 80.91.229.3 (7 May 2012 02:22:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 02:22:00 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 07 04:22:00 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SRDaH-0002Jm-3b for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 May 2012 04:21:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57160 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SRDaG-00049Q-Bg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 May 2012 22:21:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47783) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SRDaD-00049A-5N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 May 2012 22:21:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SRDaB-000469-FI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 May 2012 22:21:52 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:46320) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SRDaB-000460-8z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 May 2012 22:21:51 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SRDa6-0002DU-Ji for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 May 2012 04:21:46 +0200 Original-Received: from 71.46.49.251 ([71.46.49.251]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 07 May 2012 04:21:46 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by 71.46.49.251 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 07 May 2012 04:21:46 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 32 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.46.49.251 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130004 (Ma Gnus v0.4) Emacs/24.1.50 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:NWW2Y/Ft+awG1gRNIqIVUmu5zFs= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:150330 Archived-At: On Mon, 7 May 2012 01:20:00 +0200 Lennart Borgman wrote: LB> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Ted Zlatanov wrote: >> On Sun, 6 May 2012 16:18:03 +0200 Lennart Borgman wrote: >> LB> Which commonly used mail clients (outside of Emacs) does not support html today? >> >> HTML and XML are a complex framework of standards and I'm willing to bet >> very few mail clients support them fully or need to. LB> How much? ;-) LB> I believe most mail clients uses HTML libraries that are available for LB> developers. (Free and non-free.) I don't think the full extent of the nightmarish HTML standards (there are several) needs to be discussed, though you should look at them if only for your amusement. It's just hard to support HTML fully in a MUA without turning it into a web browser. (Microsoft Outlook, for instance, has terrible HTML support for several releases that are still commonly used. Many CSS attributes just don't work in the preview pane. This is relevant because it's hard to fontify code reliably in the Outlook preview pane without explictly stating the font color and style for each span. This was my experience 4 years ago.) But as I said already, we're really talking about MIME attachments and how the org-mode ad-hoc markup compares to them, not HTML. My comment was tangential. Ted