From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rainer M Krug Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs stackexchange beta site Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 16:33:30 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87bnqdyiv0.fsf@treetowl.lan> <87ppdr5zpe.fsf@debian.uxu> <87lhof5z4x.fsf@debian.uxu> <871tq6iaui.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1413642857 26866 80.91.229.3 (18 Oct 2014 14:34:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:34:17 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 18 16:34:11 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XfV58-0004A3-0G for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 16:34:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36873 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XfV57-0000zm-Eh for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:34:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39475) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XfV4q-0000zh-55 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:33:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XfV4k-0004HJ-PK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:33:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com ([209.85.212.180]:37170) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XfV4k-0004HA-H2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:33:46 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f180.google.com with SMTP id em10so3213630wid.13 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 07:33:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=kDoMBfOsc+6t8PaRMU+Q7q0RBODZ1FBh4mwTyEl5V9k=; b=YrYdlbLg/AaxS2KWBxtKN4lzzZCVf2cqxb75M0/9rpoG7TXyyHc8jFDmnWRE2KPH2u U96zR4y8hQKL4nuSualvS7u/Z14cX0xkDS/OnUuxp7trrpDnAYFIgE3SVpAZtoiVnJen bCcYdF0afuYtCblLO2DGw8El26i9Kji/HDoGu4Rhpi1aHvfIb1Mx+a9OrtKPp5eIDAlU 1+pXAviz95ieSB0GgkCuCPvqmWaebZyQ3voxSOaPtQY74wkyz31PUqEC6UENnckPU70s Z5cH1g3usx+KKehOV/HdkKdUGPlKChPmmAOVFk6vHSoytw+U4ClaE8K2zHLRdb/8BiBN SLgQ== X-Received: by 10.180.80.39 with SMTP id o7mr6487804wix.82.1413642825138; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 07:33:45 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Rainers-MacBook-Pro-4.local ([212.185.184.35]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i1sm3149102wix.23.2014.10.18.07.33.40 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 18 Oct 2014 07:33:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <871tq6iaui.fsf@debian.uxu> (Emanuel Berg's message of "Sat, 18 Oct 2014 00:35:01 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (darwin) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.212.180 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:100493 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Emanuel Berg writes: > Artur Malabarba writes: > >>> It is great that site materialized. >> >> It is. It's a chance to give specialized answers in >> a way that's relatively permanent with respect to >> googling. It's also an excuse for the lazy to post >> very basic questions without going through the >> trouble of even a single search, but you can't have >> everything I suppose. :-) > > There was a lengthy discussion as to the > permanent/Google/lazy aspects of it all, well, more > opinions back-and-forth I should say. Probably it'll > be interesting to you if you didn't already read it. > >>> Seriously, is there a link from that site to our >>> support-line and/or feud-o-rena here? Both the >>> listbot and the gnu.emacs.help newsgroup should be >>> mentioned, I think! >> >> The community there will soon start deciding things >> like what to put in the FAQ page. Things like the >> mailing list and the wiki are sure to be there. > > Don't forget this is also a USENET (NNTP) newsgroup - > gnu.emacs.help - which can be accessed in the full > sweetness of things with Gnus (which I hope will be an > often-visited tag on your site!). > >>> If they would communicate with us perhaps it would >>> be simpler to make an interface (or partial >>> interface to begin with), >> >> As in..? > > I can think of dozens of things. Links are the first > step. But then... There has been so much material on > this list/group. How do you reference particularly > interesting posts? Indeed, how do you find them? How > do we access your site in a way that isn't to > far-fetched from what we are used to? For example, > does it require JavaScript? Does it play well with > Emacs-w3m and other in-Emacs browsing alternatives? > Using the site from and with Emacs should be a > objective from day one, don't you think? Thinking big > (although it isn't big in terms of technology if the > wish is there, at least not in terms of reading) - can > it be integrated with the message-mode, with Gnus and > RMAIL? For example, why don't you generate a mail once > a week with all the new questions and post it here? > There are just tons of things that are worth > checking/trying out. (There was already a guy here who > did a question-based interface to the SX sites - it > was about parsing the HTML and showing the results in > plain text - I remember many people were delighted and > it seemed to work well but I didn't hear from him > since.) There is the SOS package, which allows to search the stackexchange site and returns the result in org format - but no posting from there. > > What I hope for the future of computing is > UI-agnostic: some guy likes USENET, some other guy > likes SX, some guy likes CLI, some guy GUI, some the > keyboard, some the mouse, and so on. Why fight about > it? Just make the data independent from all that and > then have everyone access it and interact with it any > way and with any tool he or she desires. > > Here is an example right here: > > U+1F44D is the Unicode for "THUMBS UP" [1]. > > I'm on another kind of system than most people so I > can't see it. But I can still insert it (`C-x 8 RET > 1f44d RET') - I hope (do you see it?): > > =F0=9F=91=8D > > You see. It is not that difficult :) > > Anyway, good luck! > > [1] http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1F44D/index.htm =2D-=20 Rainer M. 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