From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Van L Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 22:00:03 +1000 Message-ID: References: <20190514235412.kncazq45szlum2gr@Ergus> <83v9yb92c7.fsf@gnu.org> <878sv7sp3r.fsf@telefonica.net> <83r28z8zl9.fsf@gnu.org> <20190515210924.sijzy6mnpgzkt4gm@Ergus> <86a7fjnwdq.fsf@zoho.eu> <20190519130518.okrs6fmdzgbrgtxi@Ergus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="195978"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.2 (darwin) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 21 14:02:06 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hT3T4-000ooW-5n for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 May 2019 14:02:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52402 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hT3T2-0004yn-UU for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 May 2019 08:02:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41034) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hT3SV-0004w4-Rf for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 May 2019 08:01:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hT3SU-0007D4-Rm for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 May 2019 08:01:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=53488 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hT3SU-0007BE-L9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 May 2019 08:01:30 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hT3SP-000nvz-J8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 May 2019 14:01:25 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Cancel-Lock: sha1:s2q2p+O7JSbMEhmK9UlbQxk6UXs= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120565 Archived-At: Ergus writes: > On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 07:35:58PM +0900, 조성빈 wrote: >> >>2019. 5. 19. 오후 5:16, Van L 작성: >> >>> Emanuel Berg writes: >>> >>For the refined keybindings, Spacemacs can provide a good starting point. >> >>> [snip] >> >> Most >> newcomers are familiar with finding functionality with the mouse; >> and it isn’t intuitive to find new keybindings/functions that Emacs >> provide to boost productivity. (Actually, that’s one of my problems; >> how should I find new functions...?) >> > Ohh, Have you seen/used which-key? counsel/ivy list them, but which-key > does the same with the bindings. Spacemacs uses it. Thank you for suggesting the which-key-mode. Awesome. A possible starting point for transitioning from the mouse to boosting keyboard productivity is for the right third of the keyboard under the delete-key to do arrow-key navigation and block/line/page/def jumping through text by hyper or super key combos on the eight keys around RET and SHIFT. Sending the right hand all the way to the bottom right corner for the arrow keys requires an entire hand move, again, to get back. When Elon Musk ships the Neural Lace Link (NLL) you can be the Dilbert CEO and think the Strategic Consultant to move the mouse to have things done for you. -- © 2019 Van L gpg using EEF2 37E9 3840 0D5D 9183 251E 9830 384E 9683 B835 "Once you get to that elite level, we are all the same." - Pat Farmer