From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:24:49 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87sl5n5yem.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87fy1nbe4f.fsf@jurta.org> <86myvu2zw1.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <20070912093913.GB12104@saeurebad.de> <87wsuum8qw.fsf@jurta.org> <85abrn9ini.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85d4wh3kf9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <851wcw1qht.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87r6ku1bx7.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190248087 19843 80.91.229.12 (20 Sep 2007 00:28:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:28:07 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 20 02:28:06 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IY9tg-00047E-SL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:28:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IY9te-0001Yh-Q8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:27:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IY9tb-0001YS-Ps for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:27:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IY9ta-0001YF-4b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:27:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IY9ta-0001YC-1g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:27:54 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IY9tZ-00027l-Mu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 20:27:53 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IY9tS-0008O9-Ly for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:27:46 +0200 Original-Received: from accountslaptop.gradunion.cam.ac.uk ([193.60.92.141]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:27:46 +0200 Original-Received: from sdl.web by accountslaptop.gradunion.cam.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 02:27:46 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: accountslaptop.gradunion.cam.ac.uk Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAG1BMVEUAAAA9Cgm3Hx1WWFWA gn+WmJWsrqv4+vcCAwCRl2MkAAAAAXRSTlMAQObYZgAAAAFiS0dEAIgFHUgAAAAJcEhZcwAAAYoA AAGKATOXMFgAAAAHdElNRQfXAQwDNR+ZJmElAAABIklEQVQoz22SPW+DQAyGWUq65qasd9PNUSX4 AZHK2C1rJy5jpDS4IwRVup9dn7GNafpKIPPgzztXFSujqq1eM2n8h22oMkvxI/i9C97kRfMRUN55 dS3BrsAwBXUtMLAO4lryh8kTjOxKpQNniNxAgZOEe4bZwsDTFhKdqZRLNII4OQNHhEuq/RMkm6Cj TnnEA/fk0BorcYn5qA3oaeAxbaBOLrX+9G48NZ2Fzc2tzDM8Q+tMypEOqYHh8mAWaaK3U/cDMOT5 aMZMABgPXc7zPMs1A8DXO756GFJ/4fMEq47hTsAdn5avoxZ4ywl0c2w4Flu2Ybeyb3S+EqxX2DYA H8veJGEDTnHnrXvRaPyt+2kSfK6rfBZ2tUtfP/mR+pR6sX8BUZ/cDV7tvkoAAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 Emacs/23.0.50 (20070919) Fedora 7 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:DtaVyaqgyyYWd9lCbIj+oC29boE= X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79339 Archived-At: On 2007-09-20 00:46 +0100, Juri Linkov wrote: >> My mind is made up that we must arrange that beginners who always >> specify a file name argument mostly do see the splash screen >> information. I'm willing to consider other ways of doing that >> as long as I think they are effective. > > The least obtrusive way to show the important information for beginners is > using the echo area message. It is quite reliable channel if we take > precautions against overriding it with other messages (e.g. displaying it > at the final stage of startup). A large message, as Kim suggested, > can't go unnoticed. And clicking on it would display the full startup > screen. Back in the days when I was using proprietary software, I usually needed to purchase a license to stop it from popping up a startup screen. It would be helpful if we can do the same. -- .: Leo :. [ sdl.web AT gmail.com ] .: [ GPG Key: 9283AA3F ] :. I use GNU Emacs <= http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/ <=