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From: William Xu <william.xwl@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: help-fns.el patch for commands to describe options and commands
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:25:04 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2wsthghu7.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwvmyudte2p.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> Yes. When you are looking for a command, you don't want to see a zillion
>> non-interactive functions as candidates. This cuts down that noise
>> *considerably*.
>
> I could buy that.  But those users for whom it matters most won't know to
> use the C-u prefix.  And usually the C-u prefix means something like "give
> me more control", so it would make more sense to only list commands/options
> and let C-u specify that we actually want to see all functions/variables.

I like Drew's idea. But if i have to C-u everytime to see all
functions/variables, then it would be a great pain writing elisps..  

On the contrary, C-u is not friendly to newbies. So maybe a better
solution is to add/redefine two new bindings, `C-h c' and `C-h o' for
commands and options, respectively. [Currently `C-h c' is binded to
describe-key-briefly, which i find myself nearly never use..]

-- 
William

http://williamxu.net9.org

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-21  5:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-19 19:06 help-fns.el patch for commands to describe options and commands Drew Adams
2007-10-20  1:46 ` Miles Bader
2007-10-20 14:57 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-20 16:59   ` Drew Adams
2007-10-21  2:09     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-21  2:22       ` Drew Adams
2007-10-21  2:46       ` Miles Bader
2007-10-21  2:57         ` Drew Adams
2007-10-21 16:26         ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-21  5:25       ` William Xu [this message]
2007-10-21  6:02         ` Drew Adams
2007-10-22  9:00         ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-22  9:15           ` William Xu
2007-10-21 16:26     ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-21 17:30       ` Drew Adams
2007-10-23  7:12         ` Richard Stallman

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