From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Helmut Eller Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Guile in Emacs Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 01:02:47 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4B8147A9.7030504@gmail.com> <873a0euot4.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <873a0cyv3r.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87aauiho3y.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <1271028837.6164.55.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> <1271102739.6067.38.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> <8039yz34ka.fsf@tiny.isode.net> <1271173887.6067.53.camel@dell-desktop.example.com> <87FA5F05CB9C41409B9E72BD06D7C8CF@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1271373069 2407 80.91.229.12 (15 Apr 2010 23:11:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 23:11:09 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 16 01:11:05 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O2YCz-0006OA-8Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 01:10:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46763 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O2YCy-0000X8-G6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:10:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O2YCs-0000Wd-9D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:10:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=53625 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O2Y9R-0005qn-Mj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:10:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O2Y5Q-0006Lm-Tz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:06:54 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:49103) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O2Y5Q-0006L6-DY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:03:04 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O2Y5M-0000UZ-3W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 01:03:00 +0200 Original-Received: from dial-181213.pool.broadband44.net ([212.46.181.213]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 01:03:00 +0200 Original-Received: from eller.helmut by dial-181213.pool.broadband44.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 2010 01:03:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ connect(): No such file or directory Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-181213.pool.broadband44.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:K2WR6E77quQxJttF6qW/H7RvbZ8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:123727 Archived-At: * Richard Stallman [2010-04-15 20:47+0200] writes: > The Elisp manual would not need to document things that are > vanilla Common Lisp (i.e. respect the CL standard). It could > simply cross-reference the relevant CL doc. > > Do we have a good quality free Common Lisp manual? The Tex sources of the "draft" of the ANSI standard are available on the net[1]. I'm pretty sure that's the same text as the actual standard. Bill Schelter used that to create an info version for GCL[2] and that is also in the Debian package gclcvs-doc. Independently, Jesper Harder wrote some ELisp code[3] to convert the Tex code to texinfo which tries to preserve more of the font information and cross references. The legal status of the Tex sources seems a bit messy, though. Apparently the intention of the involved parties was to put them into Public Domain but somehow failed to make that formally correct[4]. Helmut [1] http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/ai-repository/ai/lang/lisp/doc/standard/ansi/0.html [2] ftp://ftp.ma.utexas.edu/pub/gcl/gcl-info+texi.tgz [3] http://www.phys.au.dk/~harder/dpans.html [4] http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/06/msg00492.html