* Why can't emacs recognize X fonts? @ 2010-06-18 4:26 Qiang Guo 2010-06-20 2:44 ` Daniel Pittman [not found] ` <mailman.4.1277002332.647.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Qiang Guo @ 2010-06-18 4:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Emacs mailing list Hi, community I'm using a emacs 23.2 I built on Mac OSX under X11. However, it can't not recognize fonts like Monaco which are available in X11. For example, I can see fonts by xlsfonts command. Is there any compiling parameter missing ? Cheers~ Qiang ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Why can't emacs recognize X fonts? 2010-06-18 4:26 Why can't emacs recognize X fonts? Qiang Guo @ 2010-06-20 2:44 ` Daniel Pittman 2010-06-20 8:46 ` Peter Dyballa [not found] ` <mailman.4.1277002332.647.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Daniel Pittman @ 2010-06-20 2:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Qiang Guo <mcknight0219@gmail.com> writes: > I'm using a emacs 23.2 I built on Mac OSX under X11. However, it can't not > recognize fonts like Monaco which are available in X11. For example, I can > see fonts by xlsfonts command. Is there any compiling parameter missing ? In 23.2, xft font support (and other pluggable back-ends, which may also apply on your platform) are available to Emacs. By default, I suspect it is using one of those. If you look in the info section "25.7 Fonts", you can there read about the configuration options available to you to make this work as expected. Regards, Daniel -- ✣ Daniel Pittman ✉ daniel@rimspace.net ☎ +61 401 155 707 ♽ made with 100 percent post-consumer electrons ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Why can't emacs recognize X fonts? 2010-06-20 2:44 ` Daniel Pittman @ 2010-06-20 8:46 ` Peter Dyballa 2010-06-21 21:38 ` Qiang Guo 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Peter Dyballa @ 2010-06-20 8:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org list > Qiang Guo writes: > >> I'm using a emacs 23.2 I built on Mac OSX under X11. However, it >> can't not >> recognize fonts like Monaco which are available in X11. For >> example, I can >> see fonts by xlsfonts command. Is there any compiling parameter >> missing ? You should configure libfontconfig (start with M-x manual-entry RET fc- list RET and check also /usr/X11/lib/X11/fontconfig/conf.d/05-osx- fonts.conf) so that this user-side font service finds the fonts. Then create the cache files with (sudo) fc-cache. Another option is to make sure that in /Library/Fonts etc. the files fonts.dir and fonts.scale exist. In GNU Emacs you can also check which fonts are actually available: M-x set-frame-font RET TAB TAB C-g A volatile buffer *Completions* has been created containing the list of fonts. Or use this function from Miles Bader: ;;; list-fonts-display via font-config (defun list-fonts-display (&optional matching) "Display a list of font-families available via font-config, in a new buffer. If the optional argument MATCHING is non-nil, only font families matching that regexp are displayed; interactively, a prefix argument will prompt for the regexp. The name of each font family is displayed using that family, as well as in the default font (to handle the case where a font cannot be used to display its own name)." (interactive (list (and current-prefix-arg (read-string "Display font families matching regexp: ")))) (let (families) (with-temp-buffer (shell-command "fc-list : family" t) (goto-char (point-min)) (while (not (eobp)) (let ((fam (buffer-substring (line-beginning-position) (line-end-position)))) (when (or (null matching) (string-match matching fam)) (push fam families))) (forward-line))) (setq families (sort families (lambda (x y) (string-lessp (downcase x) (downcase y))))) (let ((buf (get-buffer-create "*Font Families*"))) (with-current-buffer buf (erase-buffer) (dolist (family families) ;; We need to pick one of the comma-separated names to ;; actually use the font; choose the longest one because some ;; fonts have ambiguous general names as well as specific ;; ones. (let ((family-name (car (sort (split-string family ",") (lambda (x y) (> (length x) (length y)))))) (nice-family (replace-regexp-in-string "," ", " family))) (insert (concat (propertize nice-family 'face (list :family family-name)) " (" nice-family ")")) (newline))) (goto-char (point-min))) (display-buffer buf)))) -- Greetings Pete Perl—the only language that looks the same before and after RSA encryption. - Keith Bostic ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Why can't emacs recognize X fonts? 2010-06-20 8:46 ` Peter Dyballa @ 2010-06-21 21:38 ` Qiang Guo 2010-07-08 20:15 ` Allan Gottlieb 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Qiang Guo @ 2010-06-21 21:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Peter Dyballa; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org list Hi, Peter Thanks for your reply, which is really helpful. But I still don't solve the problem. I'm pretty sure that other X application can find those xft fonts. So the problem i think must lie in emacs. I thought emacs can recognize fonts avaliable to X inherently, or can it ? Cheers Qiang ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Why can't emacs recognize X fonts? 2010-06-21 21:38 ` Qiang Guo @ 2010-07-08 20:15 ` Allan Gottlieb 2010-07-08 20:53 ` Peter Dyballa 2010-07-08 21:03 ` Qiang Guo 0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Allan Gottlieb @ 2010-07-08 20:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Qiang Guo <mcknight0219@gmail.com> writes: > I thought emacs can recognize fonts > avaliable to X inherently, or can it ? I am having the same problem. This is a new laptop and I have switched from gentoo stable to gentoo testing so I can't be sure it is emacs. But I can say that I was using dejavu on 23.1 before the switch and now can't use dejavu on 23.2. As with qiang, xlsfonts finds as does my X log file (excerpt below). allan [ 44.421] (**) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/dejavu/, /usr/share/fonts/misc/, /usr/share/fonts/TTF/, /usr/share/fonts/OTF/, /usr/share/fonts/Type1/, /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Why can't emacs recognize X fonts? 2010-07-08 20:15 ` Allan Gottlieb @ 2010-07-08 20:53 ` Peter Dyballa 2010-07-08 22:21 ` Allan Gottlieb [not found] ` <mailman.7.1278627686.10601.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 2010-07-08 21:03 ` Qiang Guo 1 sibling, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Peter Dyballa @ 2010-07-08 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Allan Gottlieb; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs Am 08.07.2010 um 22:15 schrieb Allan Gottlieb: > FontPath set to: I don't where, from which programme, this statement comes from, you can determine the font path the X server uses by running xset q Besides this a user side font management exists: libfontconfig. Commands like fc-list, fc-cache, or fc-match are related to this and files like fonts.conf. The X resource (Emacs.)FontBackend, which can have the values xft, ftx, or x, I think, sets the order by which GNU Emacs will check if the fonts system supplies the specified font. The font backends used can depend on the libraries found on the system. -- Greetings Pete The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day they start selling vacuum cleaners. – Ernest Jan Plugge ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Why can't emacs recognize X fonts? 2010-07-08 20:53 ` Peter Dyballa @ 2010-07-08 22:21 ` Allan Gottlieb [not found] ` <mailman.7.1278627686.10601.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Allan Gottlieb @ 2010-07-08 22:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE> writes: > Am 08.07.2010 um 22:15 schrieb Allan Gottlieb: > >> FontPath set to: > > I don't where, from which programme, this statement comes from, you > can determine the font path the X server uses by running > > xset q > > Besides this a user side font management exists: > libfontconfig. Commands like fc-list, fc-cache, or fc-match are > related to this and files like fonts.conf. The X resource > (Emacs.)FontBackend, which can have the values xft, ftx, or x, I > think, sets the order by which GNU Emacs will check if the fonts > system supplies the specified font. The font backends used can depend > on the libraries found on the system. Thanks for this useful information. As I mentioned in another post my error was simpler (emacs built w/o xft support). I tried both "xset q" and fc-list. Both confirm the fonts. thanks again, allan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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* Re: Why can't emacs recognize X fonts? [not found] ` <mailman.7.1278627686.10601.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> @ 2010-07-12 19:05 ` Giacomo Boffi 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Giacomo Boffi @ 2010-07-12 19:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Allan Gottlieb <gottlieb@nyu.edu> writes: > I tried both "xset q" and fc-list. Both confirm the fonts. just for other's reference, xlsfonts(1) -- la lenza penzola -- PMF, in IHC ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Why can't emacs recognize X fonts? 2010-07-08 20:15 ` Allan Gottlieb 2010-07-08 20:53 ` Peter Dyballa @ 2010-07-08 21:03 ` Qiang Guo 2010-07-08 22:08 ` Allan Gottlieb 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Qiang Guo @ 2010-07-08 21:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Allan Gottlieb; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs Hi Allan I have solved problem. It's rather stupid of me because I built Emacs without libxft installed for X11. So, if you are experiencing the same problem, try to check this out. Good luck :-) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Why can't emacs recognize X fonts? 2010-07-08 21:03 ` Qiang Guo @ 2010-07-08 22:08 ` Allan Gottlieb 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Allan Gottlieb @ 2010-07-08 22:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Qiang Guo <mcknight0219@gmail.com> writes: > I have solved problem. It's rather stupid of me because I > built Emacs without libxft installed for X11. So, if you are > experiencing the same problem, try to check this out. I was just about to write that I solved it as well. I made a similar silly error: I had the library installed but did not build emacs to use xft. Good news for both of us. allan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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* Re: Why can't emacs recognize X fonts? [not found] ` <mailman.4.1277002332.647.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> @ 2010-06-20 3:44 ` Juhapekka Tolvanen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Juhapekka Tolvanen @ 2010-06-20 3:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: help-gnu-emacs Daniel Pittman <daniel@rimspace.net> writes: > Qiang Guo <mcknight0219@gmail.com> writes: > >> I'm using a emacs 23.2 I built on Mac OSX under X11. However, it can't not >> recognize fonts like Monaco which are available in X11. For example, I can >> see fonts by xlsfonts command. Is there any compiling parameter missing ? > > In 23.2, xft font support (and other pluggable back-ends, which may also apply > on your platform) are available to Emacs. By default, I suspect it is using > one of those. > > If you look in the info section "25.7 Fonts", you can there read about the > configuration options available to you to make this work as expected. If your Emacs uses Xft/fontconfig/Freetype/etc. for its fonts, then you can get a list of available fonts this way: fc-list It gives very long output. Feel free to pipe it through grep, sort, uniq, less etc. For example, if I want to know names of all fonts that belong to DejaVu-family, I can do this: % fc-list | grep -i dejavu | sort DejaVu Sans,DejaVu Sans Condensed:style=Condensed Bold,Bold DejaVu Sans,DejaVu Sans Condensed:style=Condensed Bold Oblique,Bold Oblique DejaVu Sans,DejaVu Sans Condensed:style=Condensed,Book DejaVu Sans,DejaVu Sans Condensed:style=Condensed Oblique,Oblique DejaVu Sans,DejaVu Sans Light:style=ExtraLight DejaVu Sans Mono:style=Bold DejaVu Sans Mono:style=Bold Oblique DejaVu Sans Mono:style=Book DejaVu Sans Mono:style=Oblique DejaVu Sans:style=Bold DejaVu Sans:style=Bold Oblique DejaVu Sans:style=Book DejaVu Sans:style=Oblique DejaVu Serif,DejaVu Serif Condensed:style=Condensed Bold,Bold DejaVu Serif,DejaVu Serif Condensed:style=Condensed Bold Italic,Bold Italic DejaVu Serif,DejaVu Serif Condensed:style=Condensed,Book DejaVu Serif,DejaVu Serif Condensed:style=Condensed Italic,Italic DejaVu Serif:style=Bold DejaVu Serif:style=Bold Italic DejaVu Serif:style=Book DejaVu Serif:style=Italic -- Juhapekka "naula" Tolvanen * http colon slash slash iki dot fi slash juhtolv "Quidquid Latine dictum sit altum videtur." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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