From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Helmut Eller Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Contributing LLVM.org patches to gud.el Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2015 12:42:18 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87mw4rxkzv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87y4oavxcy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423309360 30491 80.91.229.3 (7 Feb 2015 11:42:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 11:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 07 12:42:36 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YK3mQ-00024R-UP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 12:42:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52448 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YK3mQ-0006Ih-1O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 06:42:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49316) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YK3mM-0006Hp-K9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 06:42:27 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YK3mL-00082i-Pw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 06:42:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-we0-x22a.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c03::22a]:55103) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YK3mH-00081z-VD; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 06:42:22 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-we0-f170.google.com with SMTP id q59so9456498wes.1; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 03:42:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=dRwxjzQxJLOxn44YcnmApI1etNIr5GQnjwUUnMHaVJw=; b=x4HWKLIYeRZQGj/y1Ed88zUbolJqOGeyuBBWXEdlzU+nItNzks/qpTtG1XtcHOVwkl VRQkhi+DRipIiWE4qQJnJfzBllFocjzwzAHzOx9PgyAqodyDkoBEg8V4wwy5UPkZSuTS 2Tx0J0wPecEr7zTlGzQGcoYCLMK8rQG51AW9QZyWU43Ug+aWbGjGQCBm7qtHtsAr+HkI lPYK6m42m3G/8yGs9mTTQEjFJb+LkMDKKzI7O3oqjsQLDQkU9wCRJPfVo6udLKMpYVpH wZGq22fZ2ZaKpZjQNo2mwy1nYIJWedH77vA5q4LCXR+UshnV5xv7XZYzPdk8+zRvwDHG PrEg== X-Received: by 10.181.13.115 with SMTP id ex19mr13260737wid.31.1423309340966; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 03:42:20 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from ix ([212.46.172.229]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id uo6sm7232366wjc.49.2015.02.07.03.42.19 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 07 Feb 2015 03:42:19 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from helmut by ix with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YK3mE-0000wr-Am; Sat, 07 Feb 2015 12:42:18 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87y4oavxcy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (David Kastrup's message of "Sat, 07 Feb 2015 11:18:05 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c03::22a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:182584 Archived-At: On Sat, Feb 07 2015, David Kastrup wrote: > If you want to argue evolutionary biology, it makes no sense to muddle > together all niches. Humans don't need to compete with polar bears and > penguins. GCC and LLVM are obviously competitors. > The GPL and the GNU project is the stronghold of software freedom. But > we are not going to do software freedom a favor by raiding and burning > down ourselves every fair happening outside of the protection of our > castle walls. Our concern has to be to keep the state inside of the > castle walls both secure and welcoming. Inviting trojan horses into the GNU castle is probably not going to help GCC. Well, maybe in some indirect way because then GCC has to improve to stay competitive. Helmut